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Episode · 1 year ago

December by Collective Soul

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

This episode Drew and Dave discuss December, and apparently alliteration. This end of year episode was brought to us by listener Rikki, so thank you Rikki for the suggestion of this 90s classic! We also discuss:

-Drew's eggnog

-Dave wants a glam Christian band

-The band Red

-Dave and Drew's appreciation for Mike Patton

-2020 recap

-2021 plans

-Drew has watched every episode of Downton Abbey

-Shout out to Dueling Decades 

-Shout out to Shat the Movies

-Drew cannot grow beard connectors

-2021 resolutions and plans

-Thanks again everyone and we wish you all a very Happy New Year!

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Hey everyone, and welcome to songs gone wrong, where we, along with you, the fans, decide if these hit songs got it right, or did those songs go wrong? I'm one of your host drew Zachman, and joining me as always, is Dave Schultz. Dave, how are you doing? Good, sir, I am very good. Thank you for asking. I've survived the holidays. I'm happy about that, and everything went fantastic, so this is good news. Speaking of which, how is your holiday season? It was good. Thanks for asking. Yeah, it was also survived. It was low key. I guess everything this year is low key, but it was. It was. It was fine. Now he's you know, spent some time with you know, just our immediate form me. We visited our my brother and sister in law. They have two kids. That was about it. Nothing beyond that. So very, very low key. I know you made Eggnog because I follow you on social media. Yes, we make our own egg dog. I make with the kids. It's fun. I mean it's like super easy to use. Don't even use eggs, for crying out loud. It's fuck. It's pudding and milk. It's literally a it's putting in milk and like some spices, like what the hell, what's it? Dog? allspice, there's like some ginger, a little bit of cinnamon, nutmeg. I think that might be Ohen, like vanilla extract or something. That's literally all it is. You make the pudding, you put the spices and shit in and you had the milk stirt Ale together and it is you're pudding coming in. There's your there's your Eggnog, I mean coming in. Two Thousand and twenty one recipes gone wrong. Well, that, I'll tell you what. That's a recipe one right, because it tastes. I'll tell you what. It tastes pretty good. It's not healthy for you, but I guess Eggnog in general is not healthy for you, but it's not bad. And I made it with almond milk one time to that actually turned up decently well too, so a healthier alternative than whole milk. Look at you guy, look at she go yeah, Nice, it's what we do. It's what we do. But yeah, it was fun, it was good. You know, the girl, other girls had a blast at Christmas time, so that was good and they're still having a blast. That's all they do. Have a blast every single day. To them, this is be any different? You know? No, I know, but I feel like this year, you know, has been brutal for a Don's but like for our kids, I mean for them, they're probably like, Oh, I love two thousand and twenty, other than seeing like their parents like stressed out every day. I feel like in general they're like we just hang out at home and play with our dolls and he's doing virtual school now. So like Hey, we why? Why would we change anything? Yeah, you know, though, I can't fully agree with you on that. I think there's going to be a bill that needs to be paid in the future when it comes to like the psyche of these kids and all the virtual schooling and everything and being part of the generation that had to basically live life differently than in anyone before them. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Their point now, it's a fair point. The social aspect of school is, you know, important for sure. Yeah, and I mean I kind of like correct myself as I'm thinking, because I'm concerning myself now with like pass generations. Maybe during the age of war having to deal with things like that. It wasn't necessarily a pandemic or what have you. But still the damage will be done one way or the other. Like I'm just saying this too out of my personal experience, because my son hates virtual school. It is like pulling teeth to get my eight year old to participate properly. I think I'm dealing with a fourteen year old rather than an eight year old because he's so grumpy over the damn thing. See Rurr, oldest Abbey, I think she, I think she. She says anyway, that she prefers virtual school to going in person. Yeah, I would too, but but I mean, I mean if when I was I don't know, I think actually I was a kid, I I got picked on a bit, but I...

...also like playing sports and stuff, so I feel like I would have still probably gone and dealt with the bullying stuff just so I could go and play floor hockey. I really like floor hockey, in case you guys haven't noticed that. Yeah, the second episode in a row. I think I've brought it up. Well, I don't think I could have in virtual school, especially high school, because you can't really puff, puff pass through zoom, if you know what I mean. You could, you just can't pass. Used to often is Pufu look at me, Rea Bumbari over here. Pay No mind teachers. Yep, you got that. Leave them kids alone now. We're not here to talk about our kids virtual life for how depressing the world maybe are. We drew. No, that's next week on school's gone wrong. Hey, go now. But yeah, this this episode, we are talking about a song called December by the group collective soul. But before we dig in, real quick as always, guys, if you haven't done so already, please make sure he hit subscribe so that what you make sure you get all of our episodes and they come out, which is twice a week. And if you could also leave us a five star review, that would be swell. And if you do that, let us know and we will have a songs gone wrong sticker sent to your house. That's really nice of us. Yeah, yeah, and you can also follow us on twitter and Instagram at songs gone or drop us an email sgw podcast at gmailcom or visit our glorious website, songs gone wrongcom. And we also have our own songs gone wrong playlist on spotify so that we can keep up the date with the songs we discuss each episode. Now of all that, all the way, this episode was actually brought to us by a very loyal listener, ricky, who goes by at snobby girl seventeen on twitter and we always have fun talking tunes on the twitter webs. But she suggested this song from collective soul. So thank you very much, ricky, for listening to our show. Yea, and she also gave us a five star view on itunes. Really. So yeah, seriously, Ricky, thank you very much. We really do appreciate that and hopefully we don't crap on this song for you. Well, hopefully she put that sticker. You did send her a sticker, right. I she did not send me her address. A Ricky, if you all and send me your address, but I don't want to also like I want to like pry and like be like Hey, give me your address. I mean I'm going to do is send them a sticker. Yeah, but sometimes people don't want that and that's fine. I respected but if you want one, ricky, let us know and we'll have one mailed out immediately. We could have it said, I have the envelope waiting. Yeah, an alternate address if you think drew's to creepy. You know that's true. We can send it to your neighbayah, whatever works, as long as you get the sticker to slap it on your your Fine Automobile Bass Guitar, or whatever you see fit. I think. Yeah, I think it would be. I think these are perfect for bass or regular guitars that matter. Right. Yeah, but the song December by collective soul was off their self titled Album Collective Soul, which came out in one thousand nine hundred and ninety five, and the song was written by their singer, Ed Rowlands. Now, Dave, what are some of your memories of this particular song? HMM. Well, it's named after a month, correct. It is performed by a band known as collective soul. You are two for two, buddy. It came out in one thousand nine hundred and ninety five. You are on fire. Well, well, you know, I just mentioned virtual schooling and how I would have spent my time with that, and ninety five I would have been a junior in high school. So I believe there would have been a lot of puff puff passing activities going on and I don't, you know, to be honest with you, I wasn't a big collective soul fan back then and I wasn't paying too much attention to them, so I don't have any rose painted colored memories of the way they were. But December as a hell of a month. I have a lot of fun. Yeah, it's it's a good month. MMM, Christmas. You have more Christmas? Yeah, you...

...know, there's an there's more Christmas, a lot of a lot of buying stuff, a lot of capitalism going on, supporting the corporate overlord. Sure, but you know, before this whole segment goes awry, please save it, drew, and come in and share your memories of December by collective soul. Yeah, yeah, I mean I personally remember the song very well, like when it came out, it was plastered all over the radio, along with their other song, the world. I know. I think at that time I was kind of getting tired of hearing it. December and the world to know, because they both got so much airplay. But I had the album when it came out. I really liked hinse allegations and things left on said their debut album. So I was excited for this album to come out and honestly, I don't think it disappointed. I like the album. However, the radio killed December and the world. I know. So I kind of at the time I was kind of like this song again, but they're there. You know, they're an interesting band though. You know, when they came out mid s they had like a slight grunge sound to them, but they weren't exactly grunge. They weren't really hard rock, but they weren't really pop either, or pop rock. Really know, you're kind of somewhere in between, and I think that's it's always been kind of tough to pinpoint this band and I think that kind of works to their detriment because I feel like when people talk about s music, right, you always talk about grunge. Right, you talk about kind of the the buckets that you put bands in. Right, you have grunge, you have you have some of the hard rock, like Metallica and the s. You have other bands are like Pantara for that matter, or metal, right, and then you have the alt rock. Right, so you have bands like live sponge. You have the Punk Rock, right, you have green day, you have Blinkin, eighty two offspring, so you know, and collective soul doesn't really fit into it really any of those. I mean maybe Alt Rock, I guess would be the if you had to put them in a bucket, that would be the one I would put them in. But they all kind of stand out, you know, in their own individual way, where us, collective soul, was just kind of like kind of hovering in the middle, you know, but I can see that. Yeah, yeah, you know, just being from like the MTV generation, I am like, are they headbangers ball? Are they on twenty minutes a Trl, you know, and I think they might have been more trl. I don't know. Is that like it? And pay for them, you know, mid now showing of their video, you know? I don't know. Yeah, and that's pretty spot. I'm I would say, yeah, they probably would be more see rather than those whose are not a headbanger band, you know, but these guys can rock, you know, they can definitely do that. And I will say this. I'm a big fan of Ed Rolands. You know, he was shot down at every turn early on and then in ninety three he independently released collective souls debut album, hints, allegations and things left on said, and that got tons of airplay on college radio stations, namely the Song Shine, and you know that caught the ear of Atlantic records, who rereleased the album in ninety four and, you know, rolland almost quit and then decided to bet on himself and his band, which is awesome. So I always get inspired when hearing stuff like that. So and I also I also saw collective soul in where is that? Burbank, California. So we did a road trip, which I highly recommend, by the way, when you people are able to actually go out and do Shit, uh Huh. We did a road trip. We flew out to Los Angeles and then rented like a SUV and drove all the way up to pch to Seattle, and it was awesome and I want to do that again with the family. I think that'd be a fun trip. But we we went to a taping of the Jay Leno show, the tonight show, and the musical guest that night just so happened to be collective soul, so it's pretty cool to see them live there night. Yeah, yeah, I'm a I'm a collective soul fan. I'll say that. Ye, you're removing a Shaker, hitting up the Burbank. It's what we do. One. Yeah, absolutely. I've never been to burbank but I know all the shows get made there, even though me personally, I might have gone to see the prices right, preferably over the tonight show with Jay Leno, but I guess you know, you don't really choose right...

...whatever line is shortest. Yeah, that's also true. Ye, I remember we spent quite a bit of time waiting in line that day. HMM, but it was fun. I we had a good time. Right on, yeah, man. But collect the soul, you know, they're still doing all right. They have over one point six million monthly listeners on spotify and December has been streamed over seventeen million times. kind of thought that number would be a little bit more, but still not too terrible. Now their billboard hot one hundred chart information now clipt the soul actually has had seven songs hit the billboard hot one hundred, and December peaked at number twenty back in September of one thousand nine hundred and ninety five. Now, the top five at that week in September was you are not alone by Michael Jackson, which that song actually debuted at number one. That was its first week on the charts and it came out at number one. Number Two was gangs has paradise. By coolio. Number three was kissed from a rose by seal, four was waterfalls by TLC and five was boombastic by shaggy. Wow, hug it. Yeah, all right, if you said this is September, right, September of one thousand, nine hundred and ninety five, not December. Yeah, not December. That's too bad. Yeah, but hey, we're it's December now, we're talking about it and this episode is going to come out on New Year's Eve. So, wow, there you go. I mean it. I don't, I know, but you know, imagine that you have a song named after a month and it isn't really hit in that month. It's just bad timing, you know, I think it's poor planning. You know what? It reminds me a little bit of those Halloween songs, yeah, that we were talking about. Was it thriller? And somebody's watching me? Those peaked in like like March. Well, the Christmas winds too. So yeah, yeah, springtime is, you know, what's slapping when it comes to these singles. But for some reasonly, yeah, just so weird. It is so bizarre. I don't I can't fathom. Yeah, so that was the chart, the top five for that one. Now, how does this song compared to the other songs on the album? And, like I mentioned earlier, this album, I think is awesome. December, I feel it fits right in the middle. You know, you have some heavier songs like simple, the this one song is actually just called untitled and one of my favorites, where the river flows, which is, I feel like where the river flows, has like a good grungy, heavy sound to it. But December, you know, it's not as heavy as those, but it's also not as slow as the world I know, which is a great tune. So I think December fits in perfectly and this album which, like I said, that's an album I would definitely recommend. But what do you you know that song, the world, I know, right. Yes, yes, so unavoidable. Okay, do you do you like that song as well? or No, not really. Oh, fair enough. Yeah, I'M gonna be perfectly honest with you here. The vocal stylings just aren't my I don't know, they're okay, but it was just never enough to hook me, especially back then, because I was into such like a diverse profile of stuff I liked, and certain vocalist, and I always named drop Mike Patton, because I think he's one of the most amazingly gifted vocalist of all time. Agreed, in the mid S I was totally the throes of faith, no more fandom. So, and I'm going to relate that to collective soul probably a little bit later in this show. Fair enough. Yep, I'm a fair guy. That's what I do. You sure are? Yeah, we'll see. If me walking down the street, they all look at that guy. I bet you he's fair. So are you damn right? I am, that's right. But yeah, I the world, I know. I that was another one see where he was all over the radio and MTV. So I just got burnt out when that first came out. And and at that time I was listening to heavier stuff back in the ninety five. So I was like yeah, slower song. I was like, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, but now, I mean I I like pretty much every song on that album. So it's a good one. I highly recommend it and I you know, even when it first came out,...

I know I was a fan already after the hints album. You know, this one definitely did not let down, I would say, if anything, it was a step up from their first album, so no sophomore slump here for these guys. Now, lyrically speaking, I kind of like the lyrics here. So basically what this song is about the songs about collective souls relationship with their then manager, Bill Richardson. They had some legal and financial issues with him and they wrote the song to essentially kind of talk about that. They called it December, since December is the last month that a year and with that manager. They were talking about their end with him, and one of some of the lyrics, I think we're pretty cool, were. It starts off with why drink the water from my hands? Contagious as you think I am, and then he also says, I think, which starts the second verse, Why follow me to higher ground, lost as you swear I am, and then he, you know, breaks into the the course, but you know those lines kind of they're talking about their then manager consistently criticizing them yet still working with them and essentially collecting paychecks off of their success. So you know what, Fuck you, Bill. But anyway, and then at the end of the song, right Roland says December promise you gave unto me. December whispers of treachery. December clouds are now covering me. December songs no longer I sing. So shove that up your ass. Bill. December songs. So he's not caroling. Is that what he's trying to say? He's not out there, you know, bebopping and rocking with Bing crosby. What December songs isn't he singing? I would love to hear Ed Rolands do Christmas carols. Like if you just like came to my front yard and my door whatever it's like, started saying Christmas, I was I'd be wholesome. You can me. Yeah, be fantastic. That'd be unique. It would. It would be so well, also, right, there's the this is I also, I was like, as I was like researching this a little bit, one of the things I found that people thought this was like a sexual song. Yeah, it's not that. But there's the line where he says turned your head now, baby, just spit me out. Yeah, that that has nothing to do with what you think it is. And and let's be honest, I collective soul. These guys are borderline like Christian Rock, you know, they a lot of their songs kind of have that. and Ed Roland. If I'm not mistaken, his dad was a pastor, so you kind of grew up as a in religious upbringing and the religious household. So I mean a lot of their a lot of their lyrics are that way. But you know what, I did a little research on my own, meaning I looked on the Internet for like thirty five seconds, and one of the things I did see was that he was adamant that they weren't a Christian rock band. They all do that, man, I mean creed the same way. But when you listened to like shine, shine is a come on, it's a religious song, you know, and I think a lot of times they try to get away with it because I feel like when people say, Oh, you're a Christian band, you're like, you know what, you're not mainstream anymore, you know, and that's why I create I think fought so hard to be like, oh, we're not a Christian band, but when you listen to a lot of stuff, it's like, are you fucking you are? Yeah, I know what, you're a Christian band, but here's the that's fine. Yeah, that is fine. If that's you think, go for it, I don't care. You're not hurting nobody. But it is I always considered to be an incredibly easy genre to probably be successful in, because your lyrical content is is fairly narrowed, to the point where I've been suggesting for years. You know what the world needs? Christian rock Glam band. MMM MMM, Yep, that's what the world needs to really shake up that whole you know, Christian rock scene. Could you imagine that? Some guy coming out, he's all yeah, looking grungy asn't shaven, and you know, that's look what everybody sings. He's he's happy about God. Then you get some some other little, you know, acts of what have you. But then all of a sudden, man, some dude comes out full on, you know, freaking high boots and...

...make up, David Bowie style, you know, ziggy. START US out there saying about Christ. Now that would shake things up. Yeah, but it's tough to pull off the bad boy look when you're a Christian band, because that's because right like these girls come up to you and like who it's like I can have groupies. Yeah, I follow my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Right, they're not gonna it's you, and you would know immediately it's an act. So I feel like I support your idea and I hope to see a Glam rock Christian man. I'd be amazing. Yeah, would. That's just not easy to do. Now, have you ever heard of there's a band called red, our Ed Red. Have you ever heard of them? No, but real quick, just to clarify, I think that whole thing, or the whole scenario I was just describing it like what a Christian band should look like. I was imagining daughtry at first, maybe like to me, I know he's not Christian Rock, but like he looks like the kind of guy who might be like all into that kind of crap. You know what I mean. So I basically I'm saying this because I'm really struggling like figure figure out what would be the ideal look for that. So, but back on to read. Tell me all about read. Well, I mean they're they're kind of a new metallyish band. They came out, I want to say, probably around like two thousand and five, somewhere around there, and they're they're good. They're really good. I like them quite a bit and and they're like, yeah, we're a Christian band, like a Christian hard rock, borderline metal band, but they they sound very similar to like a Lincoln Park. Oh and yeah, I me and I mean I think they're really good. They have some songs that are really good. But, you know, I mean I don't know what their numbers are. Yeah, I'm assuming they're probably not as popular as like a Lincoln Park or something like that, but I think they're just as, every bit as good. Maybe not as good as they can park, but they're still good. I feel like they should get a lot more credit than they should. You is what you Wiz state what is? You know what I mean? Like, Hey, guess what world, we're a podcast and we're not afraid to admit it. Yeah, we're not. Are we aren't. Now, are we a Christian podcast? I'm assuming no, given the amount of but you drop on here. I feel like if anybody, if anybody listens to our Brentley Gilbert episode, theyre could be like now, these guys are not a Christian yes, yes, at all, than glass windows would be shattering and, oh my Lord, crush and them pearls drew just dropped into the F bomb. But again, yeah, a Mey, I try to keep it clean. I just hanging around with you, with you is just bad news. What then? They say influence. You are most definitely are. I'm so sorry, but let's get back to collective soul, and I should never even started that whole to be it's just something I read online on our webs yeah, exactly. And you're like they all say that, Dude. You know, it's just as just they do. This is how it is. Man as what's going on, and you know more than I do. And there's bands like I mean, if you listen to you too, a lot of their lyrics are more spiritual. The Band Live Ed Kowalchick is very spiritual and a lot of his lyric writing and you could be like, yeah, these songs are borderline like Christian, but they don't call it Christian music. They're like, oh, it's spiritual. Well, like all right, and maybe that's true, but I'm like that's kind of like out of the Christian good book. They're what you're talking about. So, yeah, I got to get credit where credit is do here. True, though, you went from the song potentially, or implying that some people would believe, is about oral sex to then completely flipping the switch and using the Christian rock cards. So we're really spanning the whole spectrum here. Yeah, we like to diversify. Yeah, apparely, turn your head baby, or what it was the line again? Turn your head a baby, turn your heading on, baby, just spit me out. Yeah, baby, spit me out. Oh Yeah, let's get back to that, shall we? We could. Yeah, move on. Well, let's move on then. So what do you think, Dave? Do you think December by collective soul is a legit hit,...

...or do you think this is a song gone wrong? Okay, I we mentioned two things earlier. I did say I was going to tie faith them more back into this and I'm I'm going to do that. Just give me a second, and I'm fair, which is also true. So, to be fair, I don't really care for this song. Okay, I don't really care for the band, but I realize there are fans out there who are very passionate about collective soul, and I can see why they would be. How does this tie to faith them more? Well, I was thinking about this the other day. I love faith the more I love them, but a lot of people only see them for what they produced or their hit. So what's on the surface? So if I say faith in more too, many people think it's Oh yeah, they really set song epic and they disappeared. Whatever happened to the that little group? Faith no more. And if you take a step back and you look at their entire catalog of music, it is quite the portfolio of just amazing work, spanning and jumping from every kind of genre you can think of. I credited Mike Patton again for being just an outstanding vocalist. But the way I feel, and I will passionately defend them until I'm in the great faith no more, no matter what anybody says. I imagine some people are like that. We collective soul. So I want to appeal to all those fine folks out there. Don't hurt me. I'm not giving out my address for this very reason as well. So, so, Hey, but I think this is a song gone wrong, you know. Well, all right, all right, here's something else true, and it's probably an unfair way that I kind of judge things. I seem to do it more often than not, and that's the whole like Nostalgia Lens, you know what I mean. I haven't heard this song in twenty years, let's say. Does it still hold up in two thousand and twenty. It's a good song. It's just not, to me, a great song. It's not something I need to hear or I would have wanted to hear on my own, without it being suggested by a really cool rad listener. You know what I mean. So sorry, I know what you mean. That's right, hey, and that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion. Yes, yeah, and then here's like, here's a fun fact for everybody. So technically yes, technically speaking, here faith no more is actually a one hit wonder. She shouldn't sure, filthy man. Yeah, because epic was the only song that they had that hit or that that made it to the top forty of the US billboard hot one hundreds. So by definition, which usually the definition of one hit wonder, he's only had one song crack the top forty. Now I think we all know that faith no more is much more than that. I mean, Angel Dust from start to finish. Oh, nominal, Oh soo king for a day full for like, I mean make a noise as I mean, the real thing is great. So I mean, no matter, it's just a label, you know, and faith no more is fantastic. So I just want to I just wanted to point out a little tribute there. But yeah, right on. But you hear what I'm saying? To like it said? Well, I know it's and I haven't taken a deep dive into so I'm just basing on this song, this song alone. Yeah, just this. Diddy doesn't do it for me. That's fair. That's fair. Now I'm for me, I and you are fair. He I. This is not my favorite collective soul song. That doesn't mean it's a bad song. Now, it's not even my favorite song on this album, probably my third or fourth favorite song on this album, maybe even fifth. But it's still a good song and I think it's well written. I think it's a good little I think it's a good little dig at their manager. Is it's kind of like a breakup song in a way. Right, right, and you know, I think it's well done. I think as just kind of like hey, fuck you, buddy, and I think it did it. I think you did it well. So I think this is a legit hit. That's Song I'm going to go with. Wow. Well, we are split, as you...

...know, with this this happens on the show, drew. What do we do? Oh, we go to the fans. Yes, so the fans have spoken. M and seventy six percent. Yes, so three quarters, just about the more three quarters said this song is a legit hit. Wow, okay, all right, I guess I can get that. I can understand that. Yeah, so we had it. We got some feedback. Jd Kelly at DB three eleven said I'm finding myself being on the legit hits side on just about all of these. Melinda Barnett, at Melinda Barnett said, love it. I mean it kind of sums up how I feel about two thousand and twenty. Irish Keith at me self, you know, said definitely a legit hit. This was what the mid S was all about. Good stuff. And then finally have nmn J ninety one at Tom Thomlinson said they're two thousand and fifteen albums. See what you started by continuing is the best album they have ever put out. Can't convince me otherwise, and I checked it out. It is actually a pretty good album. They're still putting out good music, but I would say this. If you are new to collective soul, I would say start out. They have on spotify. They have a kind of a greatest hits. I guess he could say from one thousand nine hundred and ninety four two thousand and one is called the seven year itch and if you go down to it's not like one of their albums. You have to actually scroll all the way down to the bottom where it says compilations. That's where it is. That it is. I mean it's a good mix and if you're not familiar with them, I would check it out. While probably my favorite song of theirs is called heavy, I fucking love that song. Energy is good, runs a good one. So there's a lot. I mean precious declaration is good listen. I mean there's so many good songs that they have on there. So check that out. And Yeah, that's what we got now, Dave. This is a we're going to go. We're going into overtime right now. Oh, okay, extra innings, sure, while we are. This is the last episode we're doing, all right, two thousand and twenty. So I wanted to talk just a couple things, you know, about like our years in general, and you know, we'll get some feedback from the people as well. Okay, you scared me there. For me. So this is the last episode we're doing and I'm like, Oh, great, I get fired two thousand and twenty. You got me again. The years not over? Oh Oh yeah, but no, we're one note that I posted on twitter. Question actually was what are some of your goals, resolutions for two thousand and twenty one? So before I we know, we dig into those, let's talk about our twenty stave. So obviously there is some good some bad. But what were some what were some bad things that happened in two thousand and twenty? Well, I was going to say you'll let me lead off with it, you know, I mean, I don't want to state the obvious or anything. Everybody else what the Hell is going on with the world? But bad things? Um, that's a that's a good question. I don't know, man, maybe I'm like a glass half ful kind of guy or something, but nothing major strikes me as something is bad. That happened to me, you know what I mean? HMM, I hate to sound like a coward, like I'm taking the easy way out or something, but in the same's no, I don't know, man, nothing bad. Everything's okay. I mean, I don't know, maybe just, you know, happy to be alive. I guess. I know that's that's a good thing. Yeah, I hope, should hope. Still, this is better than the alternative. Yes, indeed, but yeah, no, no, no, bad, all good. Yeah, we, I mean we had I mean overall, I think we had a good year. You know, I mean compared to a lot of other people. I think we definitely had it easy. Yes, but I mean we you know, we kind of cut kicked square into teeth when the New Year's started, as our oldest came home from school with head lace, like it's funny. It's funny now, kind of, but that was early in the year. You know, not sure if anyone is ever had to deal with that. I don't know if you have, Dave, but it blows. Yeah, three, for like three weeks we were sweeping the house, like literally every day, like sweeping the carpets, sweeping that,...

...sweeping the mattresses. You know, I had to buy a new vacuum cleaner just to be able to do all that stuff. Cheese, and it was washing, doing laundry all day every day, like washing the sheets, washing our clothes, everything like that was basically my job, you know, cleaning and everything, while my wife would go through both of our daughter's hair with like literally a fine toothcomb to get those little fuckers out, Huh, by time, like by Tomy, like did all of this like each day. It would be like midnight and we would just be like white and that to do it all over again the next day for the next three weeks. And, like I said, that was I think that. I think that happened like the first the end of the first week of the New Year's that was formaching a preview for two thousand and twenty. Yeah, but you know, I'm glad you clarified. That is a bad thing, because I basically just stumbled all over the place trying to search my my brain. Looke. Did anybody die? was there any major catastrophe? So I'm like no, everything's fantastic, drew, and you like yeah, fucking head lace, like go, wow, there you go. Okay, now it makes more sense, which makes me really embarrassed. I didn't bring up the whole shark attack. That happened to me, but anyway, as you were sir, yeah, I mean, I mean we did lose somebody. I think a very close friend of our family passed away in June. I unofficially to covid they wanted up having like a heart attack. Not to be a negative Nellie here, but I mean that hit hard. They had like a lot of symptoms back and I think it's like March, in April, and then they wanted up unfortunately passing in June, but that sucks. And then I remember I talked about in our twenty one pilots episode, but dealing with anxiety was super fucking rough this year. My summer was basically a shit show times ten. But that's all the bad stuff I have. But I feel like it's always good to talk about the bad because, you know, a lot of times that's how you can kind of learn some things, which is what I have done. Okay, you know, speaking of anxiety, right, turning that frown upside down. You know, I kind of started working on myself and trying to figure some stuff out, which was long overdue, I think, but figuring out what makes me happy, what I went out of life. That kind of personal journey has been tough, but it's been immensely helpful. Yeah, and you know, my wife and I have been doing more charity work in our area, helping out our daycare where our one daughter while she had she hasn't gone there all year, but we still, you know, support them, you know, doing some volunteer work at a super kitchen and downtown reading. We've been doing that. I really enjoy doing that. Looking forward to doing more of that in the New Year. I think you just said a downtown reading, like is downtown Abbey? To say downtown, I don't know, but it sounded like it to me, which is I always called it downtown Abbey and then someone corrected me. They like it. I'm like what. So now I know you're it's down to abby down and downs and reading. I will report you to Lord Grantham. And yes, I watch that show. I have never seen every I watched I watched every episode and we watched the movie. So yeah, you go girl. Yeah, and it also like, partially thanks to my anxiety, wind up dropping thirty one pounds this year's that helps. So just, you know, just trying to be healthier in general, proving Diet, drinking less, running more, Shit like that. And also, right, I get again, you know, one of the turning a negative into a positive. You know the pandemic. Yes, it sucks. We didn't really couldn't really go anywhere, you know, but we spent a lot of time with our girls, you know, and there's times when we're hanging out with them it's like, oh, we're hanging out with you again today, homeschool again today, and and it definitely is tough when you have to work from home and then also watch them. But now usually don't get too been out of shape about that because in the fall our youngest, Maggie Sho'll be going to kinder heart and so I'm like, well, we may never get a chance like this to hang out with them, you know. So, I mean maybe even ever, you know. So I'm like, you know what, let's just embrace this and enjoy every moment with them. And it's not easy. I'm not saying everything is perfect, because, spoiler alert, life isn't. But nine times out ten, like we're all pretty good in that regard. But so it was. You know, there are definitely some good things that happen this year. But how about you? What are some good things besides working on a great podcast? Yeah, well, that was a highlight. This fall we started this show, so that's been a lot of fun working with you, drew. Some people don't know we actually met via another podcast. So it's amazing...

...how online radio it's the gift. They keep our good friends. They are good friends at dueling decades. Yeah, and I was going to, you know, kind of reinforce what you just said. Spending more time with family has been good, I guess. I mean it's one of those things where, in I going into it, I'm like this is going to be fantastic because I am going to have these moments that will last a lifetime. But as time dragged on, you kind of like, okay, enough is enough, I've got to get the hell out of here. Calgon take me away. I know I probably there are days. No, trust me, I am they're probably sound like a terrible parent and spouse. But now, seriously, well, one thing too is I'm I don't work from home. I am without revealing too much because I like keeping my allure as a man behind the curtain here, but I am an essential you are, Bruce Wayne. I I'm Batman, but I mean no, I have to go out into the world and I feel terrible for so many folks out there. I mean talking about these stimulus packages and things like that. The money and the support that people need is immense, and the fact that the government was dragging his heels on it and that people have just basically, if you didn't even catch the virus, you suffered immensely financially and in other ways, because maybe you're a small business owner, maybe you know you work in an industry that's like, for example, the cinema industry or something, you're an usher, I don't even know. I'm just throwing something off the top of my head here, but it sucks that that had to happen to you. Me, I was lucky. I made out like a band I raked in money like it was going I think I made more money during the whole pandemic because I had to go out and work, you know, and I feel so bad for the less fortune, which is admirable beyond words, drew that you were going to downtown reading and doing your bans. No, I'm serious, though, to help other folks, because that's something I always aspire to do more of and I don't ever think I do enough of. You know what I mean. HMM. And I'm not a resolution guy, but if I were, that something I would definitely try to put into my new year's diet, if you will, is basically donate more time or money or anything I have spare to others, but I have enough struggles, like I said, dealing with the ones I love half the time. I don't know how well I could really benefit a lot of other folks. But Um, yeah, good things. I mean I'm just a happy person to I don't know, I think overall, I mean I got my frustrations like anybody else. Don't get me wrong, I'm not like crap and rainbows all day long. I have my problems as well, but I mean at the end of the day, I look at everything and I go well, compare it to something else, put my my my, you know, shoe on the other foot or what have you, and I'm a lucky motherfucker. So, yeah, this pleases me. Yeah, now, likewise, yeah, that's fair. Yeah, we definitely locked down. I mean I get to work from home. So I mean normally, in a normal year, I would actually go into my office four days a week and work from home once a week. And now I worked as I I've literally worked from home every day since like what, mid March or whatever it was. So you know, I'm going back, baby. You can't go back now, just fine by me, because it's like an hour fifteen commute one way. So I'm okay with that. But you know, at the same time, you know, I I realize for sure I have been fortunateough to keep my job and be able to work from home. So but I mean, as far as my know, two thousand and twenty one goal is just kind of continue when I was started working on this year, you know, just being healthier, exercising more. I mean, I a lot of people say that. Yep, but it's good. You know, people should do it. Doing more volunteer, I think, doing even more trying to trying to figure out what I want to do in this life. Right like, if anybody's watched that movie soul, which I loved and Holly Recommend it personally, but if you saw it, I'm trying to figure out my spark right now. I mean podcasting with Dave is definitely one of them, but trying to find like an actual, like job, job, or I do spend, you know, nine ten hours a day working,...

...but actually being something I like, that's are at least in an industry that I like, I'll put it that way, because I like working with project management. But trying to figure out the spark. That's kind of the thing I'm trying to figure out, but getting outside of my comforts on I think it's one way to do it. I like photography, HMM, I like building more stuff, I like building shit. One random thing I've been wanting to do for years now is joining a street hockey league. I know I talked about it. Always comes back to fucking hockey, man. I love a floor hockey and I love street hockey, so I'm trying to find a league. Totally random by love that shit, hanging with the kids, stuff like that. Now we got some feedback on twitter. Okay, yes, so I yeah, I posted a question like what are some of your goals? Resolution for two thousand and twenty one? So our good friend Carmelita Valdez McCoy, who goes by at Carmelita says, said I like to be better on starting things like projects and such, rather than just thinking about it for weeks on end. MINNIES to society. Our good friend Alex over there said still learning Swedish. Will Continue Learning Swedish. Gene Lions at gene underscore lines from the shot the movies podcast. Highly recommend that. By the way. Everybody check that one out if you like podcasts about movies. From the S and S. those guys are great. But he said, I'm a learned to talk Spanish. Oh, and then, yeah, and then Dan Mac holts at. Dan Mac Holt said, I'm thinking I might need to put that on the list. So I think both Dan and gene might be learning Spanish now. Yeah, one of the things that I do, one of the benefits with my job is, like I said before, you know, deals heavily with project management. I carry that over into my life. So when New Year's rolls around, I don't like calling them resolutions, I like calling them goals and then I put a plan in place. Now, Dave, I think you probably know off that spreadsheet that I sent you earlier when we're working on the show. Yeah, I like making I like making task lists and spreadsheets for pretty much everything, but I mean that's what I do with basically anything I work on at work or at home, and those project plans kind of help push me along. And when you have a big project it can be intimidating. So what I do to break it down into it into smaller tests and milestones, and that way, as I complete them, I kind of crossed them off or highlight them to show that they were completed in and like, once you get going, you see the progress you made, right, and I think that helps you make it, get through and get to the end and it shows, like what you've done so far, shows your progress and it keeps you moving toward that completion. So I will, I will put this software out there for anybody. Know, if anybody wants help putting their resolutions on paper and working to accomplish them, let me know. I'm not saying I'm going to, you know, magically help you be more productive or anything like that, but I definitely helps me and I figured I can, you know, maybe try to offer this to anybody else and maybe it'll help you guys. Start moving on your projects and, you know, just start writing it out. You know, here's your project, I want to builds that. I know, a desk. You know, you just like start listing shit out like by the wood, you know, get all this, this, this, you know, get to screws whatever, you know what I mean, and put a plan together. And then, as you start moving along, you know, it's like, okay, well, I'm going to do this, and then, you know, a little by little, you start cross and stuff off. Next thing you know, it's like, Oh, I have a fucking desk that I built, or whatever the cases. You know. So, you know, for me, putting stuff together like that, it's actually I actually enjoyed doing that. So and I've been working on project manager for like thirteen years, as some I would say, I'm moderately good at it. So if anybody wants some help with their two thousand and twenty one goals and resolutions as far as like putting a plan in place, let me know. I'd be more than happy to help you with it free of charge, and we'll we'll ship Dave to you. And Yeah, well, I like, Hey, I'm going baby, there are some frito's in there and a gallon the milk. You random. Ye, I know, Dude. You're not going all Tony Robbins on anybody either. Right, this is not like no self help, this is just basically putting all your ducks in a row, courtesy of drew correct. Yeah, I mean it's I have no problem giving you a pat on the backers and hey, go get him kid, but you know, it's more or less just, you know, let's put a plan in place,...

...because if you like say I want to do something, no, matter what it is. You know, like Hey, I want to lose weight, but if you just like write down I want to lose weight, that can be, you know, incipidating, because it's like how do I do it? You know. Well, then it's like, okay, well, let's put a diet planet. Yes, you know, let's put an exercise planet place. Like, let's get everything written out so you have an actual, you know, like script. Yes, it might like go off of yeah, I dig it. You know what, just to keep everything even, I will offer the opposite. I am a snake oil salesman and, if you were interested, I will totally blow your ego, make you believe things are absolutely not true, that you can't attain the unattainable, all for a small monthly fee. How much is the fee? I don't know yet. Depends on how much I like you, but I mean, you know, I will be yourself help guru that offers you everything and actually provides nothing. Sometimes, sometimes that's what people need. Well, yeah, I don't have the hair for it, though. That's the thing. I don't have the main, if you will, to kind of be like a personality that people would like see on TV and go yeah, that guy. He could fix my life. I didn't even Carey, I don't know. It doesn't matter what he says. He just looks good, so he's gonna be good. You get one of those, get like a top hat or like a cowboy had. I'd be pretty I don't know, but true cowboy. I think we got to let the listeners know how the sausage is made here a little bit, because you are currently rocking this very interesting beard. You get the bee with with like no sideburns that connect it, so it's like the channel. Fuck you. I have no connectors. All right, you got no connection. Let's put that on the list for two thousand and twenty, drew, I've been praying that on my list for the past twenty years. Man, no, no, I s yeah, I've tried. Thanks for calling out that I have no connectors. Hey, hey, I didn't know if I was by design or not. I didn't know his genetically predisposed to have no boins. So have I got no coid? I have a I have a sweet stash. I'll tell about my stash is pretty awesome. May or may not rival Tom SELLERC or don mattingly. I will say that now. My Goatee. I grow a pretty mean goatee. Yeah, but that's really it. Like connecting the the mustache to the to the beard or goatee. Yeah, nothing that happening, and going and going from the the sideburns down to the beard. I have not shaved and I'm probably going on about a month right now. Wow, I'm sure my wife loves it, by the way, but I think this is like a month right here and I still I mean you can see, I have any row connectors there. So I don't know. I'm wondering if this is maybe should inspire an ama one of these days so we can get the listeners to ask you about your facial hair or me about, I don't know, any crazy thing on the face of the earth. I have no idea, because I was going to say to you, you know, you you get everything all mapped up or mapped out, mapped in, I don't know whichever direction you want to go. But me, I got no goals, none. I'm just going to go with the flow, man, keep on trucking, you know, wherever the wind carries me, I'm going, baby. But you have the connectors, though, right, I do. There's you have nothing to worry about your set. Yeah, this is how life is mapped out in true form. It's like, well, do you have connectors? I do, then you've got it made, made. I don't. That's why I got all kinds of fucking issues. Apparently, maybe if I grow my must thatch out like long enough, it all maybe reach. Maybe that's kind of what I'm hoping for right now. So, yeah, slick it back back up plan. Yeah, totally. So that's that's what we got, man. Hope everybody has a happy new year. Anything else? When add Dave, I will be partying with a twelve pack of sea groom's Wine Coolers. There you go. And I will be having some epic games of UNO, to which I actually tweeted out, and I don't think people believe me. But yeah, it's a rare thing for me because I used to be a heavy drinker. I don't really drink anymore and I was when I was in the liquor aisle. I was actually thinking of myself, Hey, I got to keep my wits about me to play Uno against my family, because they're good. So I...

...often for the sea gums. So this is kind of life I live. Okay, people can't but, um, whatever you do decide to enjoy our new year's eve tonight, please be responsible, safe and, you know, good, so we can come back and listen to our show in January. Twenty twenty one, that's right, Yep. And Yeah, thanks everybody for listening and thanks, ricky at snobby girl seventeen on twitter. Appreciate you suggesting a song. Hopefully we didn't let you down and, you know, hope everybody has a great happy New Year. Hooviey, everybody stays safe and looking forwards. You're rolling in two thousand and twenty one with some more songs gone wrong. Thanks to everybody. Happy New Year.

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