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Don't You Want Me by The Human League

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Drew And Dave travel back to the 80s for The Human League's smash hit Don't You Want Me. Dave also challenges Drew to a workout challenge that Drew gladly accepts.

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Hey everyone, and welcome to songs gone wrong, where we, along with you, the fans, decide if these hit songs got it right or did those songs go wrong? I'm one of your host drew Zachman, and joining me as always as the wonderful and lovely Dave Schultz. Dave, how are you doing today, sir? I am fantastic. Thank you for asking, and I hope all of our fine listeners out there are fantastic as well. I you know what, I hope so as well, and I hope that they hope that they really want us up there, really want to listen to this show. If you catch my drift, I do. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. I figured you would. But if you guys haven't done so already, make sure you hit subscribe to make sure you get all of our episodes when they come out, which in fact US twice a week. And if you could also leave us a five star review on Itunes, that would be deeply appreciated. And if you could also tell your friends about our show boy, that would also be greatly appreciated. And if you do so, please let us know and then we will have your very own songs gone wrong sticker since directly to your place of residents, and you can also follow us on twitter and Instagram at songs gone you can drop us an email, sgw podcast at gmailcom, or we could visit our website, songs gone wrongcom, and also we have our own songs gone wrong playlist on spotify. See you can keep up to date with the songs we discuss each episode, such as this one right now. Now, this one, Dave, this is a this is an interesting one. You're talking about? Yeah, we're talking about don't you want me? By the Human League, which was off their album dare, which came out in one thousand nine hundred and eighty one. I don't know about you, I could not believe this came out in eighty one. I thought it was like mid S, I guess, but Yaw's a I am old man. Surprise now, yeah, shocker. Now, the songwriters, Joe Allis, Philip Oakley Philip Adrian right are better known as the Human League. Now Oak's the lead singer and main songwriter for the Human League and has been the only mainstay in the band over time. And interestingly enough, the album dare had great success and and Virgin Director Simon Draper, one of the fourth single to be released, and his choice was don't you want me, which Oaki considered to be more of a filler and the weakest track on the album. But boy, he he he, underestimated this one. But, Dave, what are some of your memories of this particular song? There I was going to say. We all make mistakes. Okay, that's true. We're human, right. So, yeah, AH, you do, all right, yeah, my memory. Let's take a trip...

...down this lovely rose painted memory that I don't really have, because I cannot recall the first time I ever heard this song. You know where I was when I heard it? I was never a fan of the band, but I can't say this. The moment that that synth starts, you immediately recognize it. So I was, I don't know, it's just in the background, I guess. In my life I must have heard it here or there. Maybe I got way to waste and winter. I don't know. Disco, Disco, disco, yeah, why not? Yeah, this I have. Also, this song has been stuck in my head for the past like two weeks. Really, you got you that said, Dude. Since we started talking about let's do this song, it's it's I mean it is it's infectious, it really is. But well, I've I've always, yeah, I've been a huge fan of the human league and when this album came out in eighty one, I mean I was a huge fan. I mean I was only one at the time, but you know, I was at the CD store or the Sam Goodie, you know, I was. I had my human league t shirt on. I was the first person in line to get this album. Slept overnight, didn't even tell my parents. Wouldn't have been a bib, you know, something that could have been nature. Yeah, it could have been. Yeah, yeah, I don't, I mean not remember. I mean I feel like it's like we're saying this song is kind of always been there. Yeah, Human League was like part of my upringing, you know, just because it's an eightsong on ging. You listen to s radio and the song was pretty popular. So it's always been there, man, and it's just one of those songs. I feel like also growing up, my dad, whenever he would like, you know, exercise in a morning or whenever he had his like his music on, I feel like the song was on his on his like mixtape that he made for like working out. That's upbeat song. You know, that's just a weird visual. I well, he's he's working out. It's a it's up an iron. Yeah, what are you listening to? Human League? Wow, hardcore. Well, Hey, man, the s bro Yeah, totally. You know, and I appreciate is. When you ask me the memory of the song, I was like, I don't know, but you came up with this wonderful story and then kind of ended it in the creepier ways. It's amazing. Yeah, yeah, that's Crey. Hey, my dad, he can exercise all the heck he wants. Well, I don't know your dad personally. Okay, he's I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure he's a saying. You know, it's just just one of those things. Man, I just picture an old man. Now, I know in the S who's young or younger, but now I'm saying about an old man, you know, doing his calisthenics, listening. Well then, how about this? How about I will you know, I will add this on my playlist for the my gym mix. I'll put this right between parkway drive and the tray. You, I'll have human league in there and and then you can just think about me every time you hear the song, working out or maybe busting a couple moves on the treadmill. How about that? We get to see it for it to be real true. This is like youtube material or something, or put on our website. I will make a video. Yeah, but you got to get all like Richard Simmons, actually, we're in mayby wearing tights,...

...maybe like a big Afro with a headband, and you know I can do the headbands. I don't. I don't own any heights. I'll see if I can try to get maybe like some short shorts. Yeah, there you go. You don't mis say. I'll try to, I'll try to figure something out, but yes, I'll make that happen. Is You, guys, and I will kind to be a battering up on instagram. Yeah, exactly. You Know Me. I was like struggling, they to find the social media that's current or hip to like post your videos. But yeah, that'd be perfect, the interwebs, Yep. Yeah, so well, we'll make that happen. Challenge accepted. Now spotify numbers right, so don't you want me? Has Been Streamed over two hundred and forty two million times, which is a whole heck of a lot. And the Human League has over three point four million monthly listeners. That's actually pretty impressive for, you know, a band from their early to mid S, you know, and then they're not like when you think of like S, you know, they're not the first band that comes the mind. You know what I mean. I know. But for them to still have, like it's almost three and a half million monthly listeners, that's pretty darn good. That's too shabby. Yeah, now the Human League has eight songs on the US billboard hot one hundred, three of them making the top ten and two of them reaching number one. One of those those top hits was human as you were alluding to earlier, and the other was don't you want me and don't you want me, hit number one back in July of one thousand nine hundred and eighty two. Now the rest of that top five on the billboard hot one hundred. It's like I said. One was don't you want me to was Rosanna by toto. Great Song. Yeah, we three was Ebony and ivory by Paul McCartney and Stevie wonder for was heat of the moment by Asia, and five was hurt. So good bye John Cougar. Not Bad coup not a not a bad. Top Five all together they're yeah, solid. Let me ask you this. Do you like that Song Ebony and ivory by Paul McCartney and Stevie wonder? I'm not a big Fan. I'm more of the so so so variety when he teamed up with Michael Jackson. HMM, that's a good one. Yeah, so that's more my Paul McCartney team up, you know. But why do you ask? was what's going on with it? Oh, no, I was just asking in general. He's just don't like that too. No, now I feel like I remember that song. You know, I feel like driving like to and from Church, I heard that song on the radio. That that's I'm just saying is we spent a lot of time driving to and from church because, yeah, forty five minutes away. It's like every Sunday we're dropping like an hour and a half in the car. But yeah, it was like the song always just like stood out for some reason. But Toto, I'd Love Toto. Forty five minutes to church. That's like either the yeah, dedication to the Max, well to the lower, or just like what happened there forty five minutes. Do you live in the sticks? Well, well, wound up happening was so the the church that we went to, like my mom, I guess, went there when she was younger, so we just kind of kept going there. However, she where she had lived when she was younger was a lot closer,...

...but then when, you know, her and my dad moved, you know, had a family, that was you know, it was further away, but they kept going to that church. Wow, yeah, it's quite the hall. This's I gotta say. If more people were like your family, willing to drive like long distances for what the enjoy blockbuster would still be open. You know what I mean? What it? I mean I enjoy. I got to be honest, like I feel like I feel like going to the movie store, or even like go it's like a record store for that matter. It's it was fun, you know, you go to the look at the wall and you'd see what was available, like what new releases came out. But I mean it, terms are so easy now, you know. Yeah, no, I mean it is easy. And who doesn't like reminisce about the old days going to video stores and stuff? I only brought that up because I mean, like, seriously, if you guys want to drive forty five minutes to go to one place, it means that if you really wanted something, you driving. You know, I mean like, Hey, the best soda is three towns over. Well, I'm driving three towns again my Damn Soda. Well, I don't care if it takes an hour and a half or I will say. This is only applicable to church. Everything else was like no, I don't want to go. Daddy went to a vacation. Know it. I was gonna say where I feel like to humanly. I feel like we, I feel like we kind of prioritize the Lord over Soda, pop raw. Yeah, that all heathen's like me, man. So I apologize for my I was going to make up my own word, but I'm just going to skip it. Carry on, drew, skip it, Kip it, yes, skip it ever, ever. See. You've seen demolition man, right, I love when he says that. Skip it all, you know. What I was thinking of was the toy, the toy. Yeah, that also bit. Skip it. Do run, run, run and do run run. It's one to something like I got balls, blah, blah, blah, Blah Blah. Blah. But you remember that jingle or am I just skip it? Song Show? Yeah, I remember the skip it, like the first part. I don't remember, like what came after. My sister had one. Yeah, well, I just sang a bar of the the tune to see if I could get a reaction out of you. And drier than the Sahara on a Sunday. I mean what, come on, man, sorry, that was that was the thing that you you had you put like your foot in like the yeah, the loop, and then it had like a like a plose, like plastic whatever, and it had like an on the hound end of it was like this. Yeah, that's yeah, old thing with a counter. Yeah, you just you spit around your ankle and jump it. Just be like, I don't know, it's a stupid toy, but what with toys were stupid and people would do that the bus stop. Dell, like we mean, what else you gonna do at the bus stop? Yeah, truth May, we always will play like football and stuff of the bus stop or have like a catch or something. But so I'm we've only get it if only they had our show. You know, I know back then. Can you imagine, God, the productivity of our culture would shoot up like threezero Guy Rocket. Yeah, like people must be happy, smiling, you know, exchanging pleasant trees in the street. Oh God, we need to anxiety would...

...plummet. He name it stark market up shootings, with their shootings, would be non existent. Everybody who knew we would shootnybody. People just hug. Yeah, hug it out, baby, which I would, which I'm all for that, I know you are. But now, I mean, how does the song compared to your songs in the album? The album? It's it's an s album, man, and I feel like, from that standpoint, this, this song, fits in nicely. But when we figure out, like what is this song actually about, it's, you know, it's just this kind of like a simple, kind of breakup song. You know, there's nothing more to it than that. You know, there's nothing beneath the surface here, right, so let's let's just talk the lyrics and, you know, okay, let's try to figure this out, you know. So it starts off, you know, you were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar when I met you. I mean right, I mean right, innocent. I mean, how many times have we gone out to bars and when we were younger, you know, checking out the bar tenders and servers. Nothing crazy here. I mean this guy just met a girl to bar. Basically, it happens all the time, right, yeah, I married like six waitresses. I mean, yeah, it happens. Yeah, yeah, at the same time. And then he said. Then he says, I pick and then he says, I pick you out, I shook you up and turned you around, turned you into something new. Okay, that's a that's a little weird, but I mean it sounds like what he's saying is, you know, she was nothing before she met him. I guess. I don't know. It's not really cool, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt here. And they spend some time together and I guess she changed a bit and, based on what this guy saying, she's in the better spot thanks to him. I don't know. I well, we'll give the band fits out. I mean it's not, you know, this isn't that bad of a song. And then he says now, five years later on, you've got the world that your feet. Success has been easy for you. All right, so she succeeded in whatever she was doing. That's good. That's good to hear. Right, not sure if they're still together or not based solely on this, but it's she seems to be kicking butt taking names. I kind of get the impression they're not together, but that's that's fine. You know. Also who? Also, like, who is this guy though? Right, I can see like a talent agent, like I see like Simon Cowell, or like maybe one of those people from the shark tank. Yeah, I mean I maybe he is. I was just thinking more like a pimp. You again go. Okay, better thought process and me this evening, where you're just like yeah, up these great little dreamscapes and Dave's got nothing. Well, I mean the he could also have been a pimp. Or like maybe she had like an idea for a product and he was like I have all the I have all the means to make this a reality for you. You like maybe some sort of device that can make sure when you put toilet paper on the roll, like, it always puts it on the right way, which is, you know, it's on the front, not the back, by the way. You're least's why I yeah, here's doesn't matter how that's how it goes on the roll. That way. What A, whoa. That's how it goes on the roll. I believe anyone. Anyway. I think my voice is crack when I said that, because I was terrified of you that moment. Those the way it goes. Put the toilet paper right, I kill you. Get off my lawd yeah, but then he says, you know, Oh,...

...what is this? He says. But don't forget, it's me who put you where you are now and I can put you back down to what the Shit? Yeah, wow, boy, this song took a turn. I think the pimp theories actually standing up now? Yeah, I think so, Jeez. I mean, clearly this guy's a dick, but I mean maybe things will clear up in the precurse. So let's let's see what they have to say there. You know, Sonny says, don't you want me? You know, I can't believe it when I hear that. You won't see me. Don't you want me? You know, I don't believe you when you say that you don't need me. It's much too late to find you think you've changed your minds. You'd better change it back or we will both be sorry. m what the fuck you in trouble, Dave? What just happened here? This was like an innocent breakup song, and now he's gonna, you know, ruin her life and or commit like a like a murder suicide here, and nothing good here. Nothing, that's nothing great. Better change it back or we will both be sorry. This would be the point. Like if your best friends at telling you this kind of stuff, you send tips into the FBI or something, you know, I mean if you yeah, this guy a sketching me out. Now, you know, he says hang out and talk about baseball cards or whatever, but now you see all this crazy crap. Yeah, Geez, like I not remember. Like it's weird, like when I've heard the song I don't even know how many times over the course of my life and I've heard that line right and you know, when you look at when you think about it, it's like wow, that's that's like that kind of terrifying a little bit. Yeah, so it's very it's aggressive, you know. Yeah, and now also he says, you know, I don't believe you when you say that you won't see me. So I guess throughout a point now where she won't even see him, which I guess makes sense. Get Yeah, which makes sense given the whole like you better change it back or will both be sorry. She's like, you're fucking nuts brow, get out of here. I do not want to see you, Cheez. And then the course, right, don't you want me, baby? I'm want to go in a limb and say no, no, she doesn't, Bro you know right. But then let's get to the second verse. Right, so now, and which is awesome. That the the girl in this relationship. She she gets the say her piece, which is good. So let's see what she has to say. So then she says, I was working out a waitress in the cocktail bar. That much is true. It's all right. So she confirms her previous employment. That's fair enough. But even then I knew I'd find a much better place, either with or without you. All right. So she was like, Oh, I'm going to kick some ass and take some names, no matter what. She believes herself. That's that's good news. And then she says the five years we had, the five years we have had, have been such good times. I still love you. Like she's like actually polite about this whole thing. Right, like this, guys like, don't you want me? You know, or we're both be sorry, and she's like we had a good time. I still love you, like I still hope you, you know, achieve your goals and your dreams and you have a happy life. Completely different end of the spectrum here, you know. And this guy's like threatening her with a whole murder suicide thing. She's just taking the high road, which I feel like that probably eats away at him even...

...more, given how fucking crazy this guy is. I feel like you're describing your favorite soap opera to me right now. You know, I mean like you just hit me. It's just, I don't know, it's this crazy stalkers stuff or whatever. It's like an episode of a terrible show. I feel like this is this should be something out of like American psycho. Okay, maybe I was. There's a little too tame with a whole soap opera bit, but yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, I could totally say Christian Bale be in the guy. But then she says, but now I think it's time I live my life on my own. I guess it's just what I must do. So they had their time together, but now she's on her own. HMM, for no pounds and you know, get the step and buddy. So wow, all right, so there we go. So this guy's interesting. Guy's not in jail. That's what you're trying to seek. Chris Man's rank prison? Yeah, bare minimum. He should be going to get some kind of therapy, yeah, or some thing. But now you were just kind of joking around. We we did our research. I was just kind of doing it up a little bit. But per sill oaky, who is the the singer and one of the songwriters, year, he said this is not a love song but a nasty and then I'm quoting here, a nasty song about sexual power politics and the lyrics were inspired after Oakie read a photo story in the Teen Girls Magazine. So that's what he's talking about. You know, people use the power of their position to, you know, get people to do things for them, and that's kind of what this is about. So very interesting there, Phil. Thanks Phil. Yeah, but all right, that boy, that those lyrics interesting. But say, yeah, yeah, anything else to an ad before we jump into our final verdict here? Absolutely, there's something I really want to point out is that if you say something's really interesting, you're actually tipping off that you're creeped out by it. So I want to you know, warn all your friends myself included. They if you're like Oh, that's very interesting, I'm probably like hey, he ain't buying what I'm selling. This is this is creepy. Yeah, it's creepy me out, man, but no, I have no other thoughts other than that. All right, well then, Dave, yes, don't you want me by the humanly? Do you think the song is a legit hit or a song gone wrong? Wow, um, yet again, I don't have a lot of memories of this song. That they're there's no nostalgic feelings for me. They're the lyrics is Trewe just pointed out. or I mean you know that time when the song was released, it's just like hey, wow, cool, let's get a groove, we can dance to it. Like, what is he saying? I don't care, I can just boogie. You know what I mean. So I'm sure it slipped through a lot of cracks, but that whole synth part in the beginning and throughout the whole song, it's just I don't know, man. I must want to say it's iconic in a way because when you hear it you just immediately recognize it and you start moving a little bit. So well, I'm a little bit on the fence. Overall, I think I'm going to lean to one side, actually calling it legit hit, because it does...

...survive the test of time as far as being an enjoyable tune. That's fair. What about you dress? So what do you think? I can't, I can't say that's interesting because no, I would then that just means it's creepy. But yeah, well, you got yeah, I tip me off and I'm freaking you out. Man, ill Dave. That's a that's interesting. said that. Damn, let me get my phone. But yeah, let's a you're even though OAKIE, who made this, you know, Song, he's he actually himself still thinks the songs overrated, which is interesting. Like when they wanted to release that single, he didn't want to. But yeah, he acknowledges that. You know, his initial dismissal was a bit misguided, and he does. He is proud of the song. But you know, I like it. It's catchy. You know, that chorus gets drilled in your brand, like you're talking about like that. That's sent you're right. As soon as you hear it you know what song it is, and I feel like that speaks to the staying power of the song. It's a cool poppy tune. I like it. I think it's a legit hit, even though, you know, there's the whole, you know, murder suicide thing, but I mean, Hey, right, every song has their own different take on things. But yeah, no, I think it's a legit hit. It's catchy, it's a good s pop tune. I dig it right. Oh yeah, but let's we set our peace. Dave. Yes, we didn't need to check with, Oh, the fans. That's right. Let's see what they have to say about this. All right, the fans have spoken, and seventy one point four percent said that this song is a legit hit. Nice, so we all, we all agree. So I guess maybe they like that catchy little synth and the chorus as well. Yeah, totally, yeah, we didn't. We didn't get much feedback on this one. I don't know. Maybe the lyrics scared some people away. Could have been, but yeah, or did you put it out there in the Internet and be like, I'm very interested in your thoughts this song. Please tell me what you guys think. I'm very interested. Don't, don't, don't. Yeah, all right, well, we got to try. Just put it out there as we all wease do. I try not to sway the audience, HMM, but most of the time I was trying to sway our sound garden vote, which did not work. But when we when I put the songs out for voting, I do not try to sway them because I want people to be honest and that's a I just want their honesty and I want them to give their real reaction to it. But I mean seventy one percent said legit hit. So that's about as real as it gets. And thank you for the inside information about the little democratic process we're running over here. We love democracy, Darn Right, we do, root and Tuton. That's right, all right, man. Anything else would add before you wrap up? I just want to say thank you to the people for taking time out of their day to listen to our show. Truly appreciate...

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