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Episode · 1 year ago

Freedom by Rage Against the Machine

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Drew and Dave talk about a 90s hard rock classic in Freedom by Rage Against the Machine. Drew also goes on a historical rant for the ages while Dave drops some knowledge on how this song was created.

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Hey everyone, and welcome to songs gone wrong, where we, along with you, the fans, decide if these hit songs got it right, or did those songs go wrong? One of your host drew Zachman, and joining me as always, as Dave Schultz. Dave, how are you doing today, sir? Hello there, MR I would like some explanation, though, because I don't know you very well. So what are you doing standing here in my bedroom watching me sleep? I didn't think you would notice. I very much notice. So if you wouldn't mind just kind of kindly coming out the way you came in, can I rub your shoulder for a little bit? Hold up there, hold on, no, I remember you now. I know you now. Hey, drew, how are you, Bud? Oh, I'm done pretty good. Great. How are you making out with a weather? So You'r you live down in the warm state of Texas. How's how's your winter going through? Come on now, you know better to talk about whether or politics, the most boring subjects of all time. Right, well, all, I wanted to talk about whether, because I'm definitely bringing up politics later this episode. Yeah, well, okay, how about we change boiler alert? Yeah, he said a weather though. Let's just maybe consider it my wellbeing, my health. Okay, how is your well how is your wellbeing? Your health, but what you mentioned, I me. I'm in Texas and I've just survived the Texas. The storm doesn't have a name, so let me call it the Texas turred Burger Two thousand and twenty one. I thankfully had power throughout the whole thing, but no water for a long time, and tonight was the first night and over a week I had hot water in my home. So simple things, people, will bring you immense joy. This is true. Well, I'll tell simple things, man. I need I need to like shower my own house. I appreciate the people who let me come over because I know it must been really tough for them to imagine my, my body in their private receptacle doing what I do. But it's just good to be maybe, maybe, I think. I think they wanted you there. Yeah, I could have been. I just don't like being treated like a piece of meat. I've mentioned that before. You know, there's only so much of me to go around. It's true. I don't want to be objectified, but yeah, I hate that the worst. Yeah, it's Sucky, that's true, but you know, but you know it's not sucky. No, please tell me, drew, what is not sucky this episode. Oh, yeah, it's gonna be a good one. Yes indeed. Yeah, but before we dig end, everybody, if you haven't done so, please make sure you hit subscribe to make sure you get all of our episodes and they come out, which in fact it's twice a week. And if you could also tell your friends about it to help the show grow, boy, that would be swell. And if you could also leave us a five star review. That is just one more way to help our show grow and reach the masses, which would be great. And if you do leave us a five star review, let me know and we'll have a songs gone wrong sticker sent to your very house. And you can also follow us on the socials on twitter and instagram. They're both at songs gone you can drop us an email sgw podcast at gmailcom or visit our website, songs gone wrongcom, and we also have our own songs gone wrong playlist on spotify so I can keep up the date with the songs we discuss each episode. Now this episode is boy, it's gonna be a good one. I'm excited about this one, because we are talking about freedom. MMM, by rage against the machine, which was off their debut album, their self titled Debut Album, Rage Against Machine, and it came out in November of one thousand nine hundred and ninety two. And the songwriters,...

...it's basically the entire band, Tim Commerford, Zach Dale, a Rocca, Tom Morello and Brad Wilke. and Tim Cromerford, by the way, would also occasionally go by the name Tim Bob. It's a little FY for you there. But but, Dave, what are some of your memories of this song? Um, well, rage, you get some machine. You know, was very influential. As a teenager, I also was really into heavy music at the time, but I don't want to discuss that. I want to bring up someone in particular because I had a coworker in the late s who was a massive rage against the machine fan, like this is all he would ever listen to in his car, at home, wherever he was. Use Rage all day, all the time. Now, the reason why I would find this a little bit odd was he was a little bit of and this is even stranger knowing that he was from Massachusetts. But there are some more rural areas. He was a little bit of a hill billy. He wasn't the most well spoken sort or had the best etiquette one had ever seen, and he didn't really seem overly political, but he smoked a lot of weed, good weed, and I would smoke weed with him every day at lunch break and listen to rage, to which I had asked him one day. Listen rages. You know their messages are really strong and powerful, potent. You don't seem to lean that way. Why would you even be interested in rage against the machine? Anyway, and he says he doesn't care about the lyrics. That's what you told me point blank. The messaging missed him completely. He just like the music because it rocked, and that was very simplistic in this explanation, raw and in many ways I wonder if a hardcore rage against the machine fan would even be offended by such a thing. But Anyway, I have no idea where he is now, if he still likes rage or if he still smokes a boatload of weed. How how do you listen to rage against the machine and not notice or pay attention to the lyrics? He just did. That's he didn't give a rats Petudi about what they were trying to sing about. He just thought it rocked, man. It kicked ass. And you know, I think maybe at that age, and you've talked about this before, when you're filled with rage and aggression and you got to de Mosh and punch people in staff or whatever because you can't get a girlfriend, it's appealing just to hear some gnarly riffs, I guess. But even then, like you're listening to the lyrics too. I'm telling you, it was weird. I die this why? I that's really weird. It was a very strange thing and I was sitting in that car, high as a kite, listen to this guy to say Yos Lokom because it rock and I'm like, okay, all right, guy, whatever you say. You know the I'm sure they appreciate you buying the record. Oh yeah, they sure do. What about you, drew ski? What are your memories of a little radom man? So I have a lot of memories with rage against the machine. So I'm trying to have like a handful of bullet points here to kind of go around. I've remember like where it all started. I feel like it probably started with just watching their videos on MTV. I think freedom was the first one that I remember seeing with, you know, the the Leonard Peltier guy in there and kind of talking about his story a little bit and kind of his case. I'll dig into that a little bit later, but just you know, seeing that video, I think, was probably my my first, I guess in trued my introduction to rage against the machine was through MTV and then after that. So this point I had now known the who they were for a little bit. And then my parents of there was this church camp we'd go to in Ohio and it was honestly, it was a blast. I love going there. I miss going there. Was it was so much fun. Well, my parents sent me that his church camp, right and there were some of the older guys there were listening to like heavy music. Well, they had the rage against the machine album,...

...the debut album, and we're playing that, which is kind of interesting, you know, hearing fuck you, I won't do it. You tell me out of church camp. But that's that's why it was. And like I had never heard any other song besides freedom. So I was like wow, this is this is pretty awesome. So then I think right after that, I know basically I went to church camp and then I started, you know, getting into heavy music, which is probably the opposite effect of what my parents were hoping for, probably, but and then I remember so the the first CDs that I actually bought with my own money. Rage against the machine was one of them, and I went to to Princeton record exchange and get them by when. I don't know if I brought this up during our wood episode, but I went to the Princeton record exchange because you could buy like UCD's there and it was awesome, like twenty bucks would get you like a lot of stuff. So I got rage against machine, their debut album. I got Alison Shane's dirt jar flies and their vanas in utero. So pretty good haul. So I've im I still have their rage CD. It's actually sitting right over there looking at me as we record this. I'll probably take pictures of it. But yeah, I love rage against the machine and we talked about it during the limp biscuit episode. I'm not mistaken, you know, when we were talking about albums that we were really excited for. Evil Empire was one of those albums where I was probably like the most excited to get the evil empire album. I just, like could not wait for that to come out. There was so much hype around that, you know, amongst my group of friends and also in general. There's a lot of hype around it, you know, just from what you would see on the news and everything. So I've I've been into rage against some machine for a long time and then, and once I started listening to rage against machine, you aftergot back from a church camp, I went back and listen to Zach's previous band, which I believe is called inside out, and I couldn't find that album anywhere. But again, the Prince of record exchange had it because it's kind of like a rare album. So I have that somewhere around here. But yeah, that's those are my memories of the song. Okay, cool. Like you said, Church camp is very odd place to be introduced to rage against machine. But you know, whatever it takes right, that's all it matters, whatever it takes. Gotta do what you got to do. Now, on spotify rage, they're so popular. They have over seven point two million monthly listeners on spotify and their most stream song is actually killing in a name with over four hundred and fifty nine alien streams. Now, freedom did not chart on a US billboard hot one hundred. They actually only have one song that hit the hot one hundred, and that was guerrilla radio, which peaked at sixty nine back in October of one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine. Now another item of note. Their debut album, which is the album we're kind of talking about here, that peaked on the billboard two hundred at number forty five, but their follow up album, evil empire, hit number one back in May of one thousand nine hundred and ninety six, and then their third album, the battle of Los Angeles, peaked at number one as well, back in November of one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine. Now, how does this song compare to the other songs on this album? Well, I don't know about you, David, I would say this song fits in pretty darn well. Yeah, it's have very imagine it does. It's my favorite rage song of all time. is off this album. It's not freedom, but I'm a guess. Can I can? I guess you want to play guessing games on IDEA CAST? Oh boy, I just be really entertaining for the listeners. Go ahead, drew guess away. No, your enemy, Dude. How the fuck did you just do that? How did you just do that? That's like I'm thinking of a number. I've got a number of my head. Guess it. You actually guessed it. You know. I mean like that's a game you play with a three year old just to waste time. Holy Cave. Yes, first off, we're not wasting time. Second of all, we are songs gone wrong. Dude. We know our music. Yeah, all right, okay, we know our music. It HMM. So you're welcome listeners, but yeah,...

...yeah, this album, the song fits right in. Wait, hold on, how YOU CLARA VOID? How did you even peg me is being a fan of that song in particular? How did that happen? You can't just sweep that underneath the rug. I can't, Dude. I can't tell my secrets. Our podcast is free. Maybe we should start like an only fans and I can give away my secrets on there. Perhaps maybe your only power is reading my mind and no one else's, so that just might be useless. Yeah, well, it's helpful. I do have a power of like naming a song after a first couple notes. The Guy can pick it up pretty quickly. It's kind of like one of those like stupid, stupid pet tricks that I like to pull out at parties after I've had a couple drinks. Okay, well, sit boost now, but now, like when I was like younger, I like now, if I have a couple drinks, I would like doze off or take a nap or something, because I'm old. Right, yeah, but but, yeah, I mean, but before we get into the songs. Right, you look at the album cover. Right, odds are when you have a Buddhist committing selfimmolation on the cover, you're probably trying to make a statement there. And and I would go on a limb and say rage does the entire album. And first of all, all of these songs are awesome. I love this entire album, which will probably spoil my final verdict, but everybody probably knows where I'm leaning towards this on. But I've listened to this album a million times. I love every song, it's so good. Second will, I do like their music. I'm also not a complete fucking moron and I do see the hypocrisy in rage against the machine. Right, these guys keep saying that capitalism's bad. Don't bow down to demand, and I don't know if you remember this, the least have a t shirt that said we have determined that your whole system sucks. I thought that was cool. I get all of that, but at the same time these guys are making a ton of money off of all this, and it's not like they just say fuck the money, will do this for free. They're not hurting for cash. You know, Tomborello has an estimated net worth of thirty million dollars. So they're they're doing okay and they are making money off of all this. And they also announced they're going on tour in two thousand and twenty. I think they're going to do like nine shows or something like that, and my nipples perked right the fuck up until I saw the cost of their tickets, which were somehow like over the two hundred mark for crappy seats. And also these guys played coach Ella, so there's also that. I get it. There hypocritical. However, that doesn't mean what I might disagree why, I don't know. I don't want to fully disagree with you on that, because I can totally get it. Yeah, fuck the man, but we we work for the man. We reap the benefits of working for the man. I understand that, but to me it's like isn't that even more of a twist when it's like, yeah, we work for the man, we get paid by the man, but we're else totally dissing the man the entire time that we're doing it? That's true. That's a fair point. I don't but I don't know. I feel like, you know, they don't know when you're I feel like when you play coach Ella, you lose a lot of credibility if that's kind of what your message is. But I think they are a little hypocritical. But that doesn't mean that what they say is wrong. Right, it's I think it's I think their message is good. It's good to question things. You know, both you and I right. We live the United States, and hello, by the way, to all of our international listeners. Hope you're doing well and we know we've seen all kinds of crazy shit going on here in to past five years. I mean the last year alone. The last year alone actually has probably been seventeen years, if I'm not mistaken. But overall, leadership is lacking in our world in general right now. Right. I'm not talking Democrats, Republicans, everybody, anybody who's in charge, in my opinion, is most likely a giant jackass. Right, these these jerkoffs, are in charge, yet all they care about themselves and they need to be held accountable, and I think that's a big part of the message. You know, I think that's what rage is talking about in a lot of their music, you know, like just shit that has gone wrong. Actually, that would be an awesome podcast. Shit gone wrong. Maybe. Maybe, who? Maybe we should trademark that. That much sure worthy, but put...

...a pin in that one, all right. Well, well, well, table that, hmm, and then later we can take a Thirtyzero foot of view on it. fucking corporate meetings. I hate them, but you know, like things America has done to other countries as well as our own people. Right, flot Michigan, that should probably ring a bell. Like you live in Texas, right. You guys just got pounded by that snowstorm and I've heard people talking about their utility bills being over like Ninezero dollars, which is insane, and I don't I don't know about the validity of that. I also don't doubt that, because I could totally see that happening. So I don't understand what all that's about. You know, we're in the midst of a pandemic and I feel like leadership was nowhere to be found. You know, I still question anything that comes from up top, because they're all a bunch of fucking morons. Yeah, letticize everything in order to help their own agenda, and guess it's fucked square as the middle class, you and me, buddy. Hmmm, not everyone, though. The rich can afford to get away with basically anything, right the middle and lower classes of the ones who get hosed all the time. People are like, we could just text the rich. It's not that fucking simple, dipshits. You know, there's a reason you can't do that. And those people are that rich for a reason, usually because they're they're greedy, they're ruthless, and they'll just find loopholes around the tax laws and still not pay a sent more. The poor can't pay because they just don't have any money. So who winds up paying at taxes? The middle class, who? And they are the people who follow the rules. So yeah, go ahead and tax the the rich, see how that works out. I'll talk to you, guys on April fifteen and we can compare statements and see how nothing change for US anyway. And the little label that boy, Holy Man, I'm not done. Yes, Saucy, yeah, and also all these people that love Bernie Sanders. Fuck Bernie Sanders. Dude has three homes. Also, the average salary for a US senator is a hundred and seventy four thousand dollars a year, not to mention all the PERDM's they get. Usually it's like a hundred or a hundred fifty bucks per gay for meals. So don't tell me that Bernie's a man of the fucking people. They're all all they care about themselves. Fuck all of them. But I do think, let me take a tea breath, I do think what rage says, yeah, is right. Right. We need to question what we hear and question what we learn. Right, one of their songs take the power back. They talk about the school's curriculums being Eurocentric Right now. Take Andrew Jackson, for example. I remember learning about him and how he was old hickory and an American war hero, and we talked about his acts of bravery in the war and then kind of glossed over the whole trail of tears thing, which is basically his way of stealing land from the native Americans in the south, in the southeastern states. You know, they basically made up some bullshit agreement that they weren't going to honor and kick them out. All the while those native Americans who are forced to leave, about six styles of them died during the forced relocation. But when I took that history class, they said trail of tears and buy it was dangerous and okay, next chapter. Let's learn about old kinderhook, Martin Van Buren, and then after him William Henry Harrison and the importance of wearing a fucking coat in the middle of winter, William Henry Anyway. So I kind of lost my point there. I was. I want to I'm just trying to get out of your way. That's all I doing. I'm in the cornage trying not to hit the hit with that venom. I don't want to lose any skin over this thing. Now that I disagree with you. I don't. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Where you know, even even the politicians you may support because they have some beliefs that are are lying with yours. You always have to question authority always, and I think also comes with age. When you're young and you're having fun, you don't care so much about yeah, and this isn't for everybody, of course. I'm there's a lot of activists out there, don't get me wrong, but I mean, just like the majority of folks, it's like, okay, well, whatever happens in big government, my life keeps on rocking and rolling at his keep on trucking. But yet again, the more the the years tick by, the more you start to realize how completely screwed and how rigged the system and how it stacked against us, and it's enough to make a grown man cry...

...or completely rage out on a podcast about music or rage against the machine. There you go. But but yeah, so, like I said, you did they I get it. You know, these guys are making money hand over fist from their music, and the deservedly so, but they're you know, but they're their lyrics and their meeting is, I think, pretty spot on. You know, we talked about Christopher Columbus, I mean when I was in school. Hey, he found America, Yada, Yada, Yada. They never tell you about, you know, all the people he killed and you know in Latin America, you know what I mean. So I know it's and the guy still has a fucking holiday. I hate cristopher Columbus fucking got lost. He got lost, Bro. Yes, yes, he did, anyway. But this, this album, though, this album is their best album. I think evil empire is excellent as well, but this album is an absolute masterpiece. Tom Morello actually plays guitar here, whereas I think he regresses each album after this, like he kind of got a little worse. And Evil Empire, you know, he would opt to make these like weird noises and kind of passing that off as music, whereas like this album, his solos are just straight up magic and beautiful. I love it. And then battle Los Angeles, it was just like hey, what happens if I jm my finger in this electrical socket while holding a guitar? Perfect, let's throw that on the album. So some of his like Solos he would do, and the battle of Los Angeles. I'm like, well, you can't, you can't push off getting just random feedback as music. Dude, you're just feedback. So but yeah, this album's fucking great. I was all over the place. There wasn't my holy Shit. You are a freight train, brother. That's what you are in. Yeah, you, but hey, you know what? Is Still Time, you can ring it back in and is totally stick to freedom. Let's see where you go from here. The guy's a limit. Weal. That's well, let's talk about the lyrics. Sure, let's talk about that. We could all, you know, we could do. Actually, we have a podcast called president's gone wrong. Nou. We could talk about William Henry Harrison and Andrew Dixon. No, no, you know you. Andrew Jackson is still on the twenty dollar bill. Why? I don't understand that either. I don't get it either. But listen, you can't just go around saying anything gone wrong is our new show or podcast idea. Well, we should blank gone wrong. We just trade mark on everything gone wrong. There you go. We can not not, and I'm not saying like it. I'm not part of the whole cancel culture thing right like I just because somebody did something wrong, I'm not like they should be canceled. I go, yeah, everybody has a bad day, but like me, having a bad day means maybe I'll like give somebody a bad look at like the gas station or something like that. You know what I mean. Andrew Jackson had a bad day and fucking murdered six doyles and native Americans. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, it's big, differently egregious. Yes, indeed, it truly is. And history is again, it's revisionist, right, because when we get taught one thing as a kid, and I was the same, the same boat as you, where I was learning all these lessons as a child, taking tests and believing this to be a fact or true, and then you grow up and you know, you find out the real situation that happened behind many of these historical events and you go, holy cow, that is not right, and how was I taught differently? But yeah, unfortunately that was the case, and hopefully the future will change the disnification of our education. Okay, everything's a fairytale like pocahonnas. MMM, yes, in need, but let's look at this. Talk about the lyrics here, please, I think. Please, don't talk about whatever you're talking about. You get my drift, like you know. Yeah, I'm eager to talk about these lyrics because even before you get started, let me point this out. Please do the opening of this song, I believe was recorded or written on a toilet. And why do you say that today? Because the song starts off with the loud grunt followed by another strange noise, and later on you get a little, a little extra emphasis there. So he sings Oh, pump pump,...

...whoo, and I love it. I think those sounds can only originate from one room in any house or setting in the universe, and that would be the bathroom, the turlet. Yeah, the TURLET. Yeah, I think he was on the Turilet when he started writing freedom. Indeed, Zach might have been. Please start started. Clarify. Yeah, I'll reach out to him. I'm sure he'll answer. And I want to know who else makes those sounds while they're doing their business. I don't say pump pump, but I don't know. Maybe every now and then you get the whoo. Yeah, the WOO is necessary. I think the grunt is also the is awesome in there for a lot of people. I think so it could be. So yeah, try it, if you haven't ever done that before, to sing the opening guttural sounds to freedom. Next time you were praying to the porcelain God's fair enough. Now on to the true lyrics, my friend, please enlightness, yeah, to what they mean. Well, I think. Well, first off I just want to call out the fact that they actually use the words floppy disk, which a quick shot out the floppy discs, and commodore sixty four. Totally. Yeah, that's that's great. It's crazy, how dated that just that phrases. To Man, these guys talking about floppy disk. What the fuck? But Hey, man, one thousand nine hundred and ninety two, ad want. But when you go down to the the lyrics, right, he says it's set up like a deck of cards there, which is kind of an interesting analogy he makes here. Right, he goes, there's something us to early graves. For all the diamonds, they'll use a pair of clubs to beat the spades. That's when I was like younger, I was like Oh, cool, it rhymes and you know, I figured he's like angry. But when you look into it, right, for all the diamonds, right, that's that's talking about like wealth, right, for all the wealth. And then when he says they'll use a pair of clubs, so it's almost like he's using like almost like the literal click, a literal club. MM. And then he's saying to beat the spades. How I'm interpreting that as like people of Color, right. So that's a powerful statement he's making there, and that it's actually a pretty cool analogy how he worded that. But it's deep, man, and it's not wrong. No, no, isn't wrong at all. People will fucking step all over you to make a couple of bucks. That's that's the American way. Yeah, and they will exploit people of color any chance they get. Yeah, yeah, or people of Color and people of and poverty. M White, black, green, Brown, doesn't matter. They will take advantage of anybody. But then he says anger is a gift. I I feel like I always appreciated that line, but that's also not wrong. You know, you can people always say, well, don't be angry, but the same time, like you can also use anger, you know. Well, it's also the way that he Asians inspiration. Yeah, but, drew, is also the way that he utilizes it in the song, because there's a lot of power in his vocals, right, whether he's kind of rapping to whether it's something coming deep from inside him where it's essentially screaming. So when he says that, he's basically whispering it, you don't even bring yeah, and yes, it's a really cool addition to the song. Oh Yeah, for sure. Now I completely agree. There's also a part in the song that, whenever you hear it, you kind of try to like mimic the way it's being sung. And I don't know if you have that moment when you listen to the song, but I do, and it's specific to the lines. What does the billboards say? Come and play, come and play. So get about the movement right and when you hear that, to me that's a very poignant phrase in itself, because it reminds me a lot of remember that movie, like they live with a dude, robbery Piper, put on the sunglasses and it's like obey and everything else, because that's that's why I think he's kind of alluding to here, where it's like you, you'll allow yourself to get distracted by something that might be like, I'm angry,...

I'm angry. Oh wait, look at that picture of Mickey Mouse. I'm happy, I'm happy. You know what I mean. You're yeah, you're anger or hostility towards anything would be redirected and yeah, you know, you'd be filled with these thoughts that might not even be your own. Yeah, Oh, Squirrel, and now like here's here's here's a diverse here's a diversion for you. Yeah, you know whatever you're talking about. Oh, look at this, look at the butterfly. You know. So that's yeah, I know, that's that's fair, and I'm offended. You didn't notice how bad ass I sung that verse. No, no, you definitely did. You didn't say nothing. I didn't think I needed to come and play. Come and play, forget about the moment. Come on, drew, your anger is I keft. Thank you, but but anybody a needy? All right, keep going, my friend. I'm sorry for, yeah, jumping around. Yeah, another little interesting Kidbit, my friend, and I find this absolutely fascinating, is that this is the second song that we have covered in our brief history that reference the game, that's very simple game of tick tack toe, the other being breath on a window by alice and chains, to which I would say it is much better utilized here lyrically. But I do have to mention to the listeners as well. Check out our archives so you can hear that episode two. But yeah, drew, Tick Tack Toe. Yeah, now, that's good. Yeah, and definitely listen to that episode. Listen to all of them actually, but that one we actually have Mr William Duval himself giving us a little talk on there, so definitely check that out. But yeah, no, that's that's true. Playing take that to us. A second song that's actually mentioned. That Weird Huh. It's fate, it is, m yeah, and then right. So then let's get to the last line, which I feel like this actually sums up the entire song perfectly. Yeah right, he says freedom, and then he got a he pauses for a second and he goes yeah, right. So it's like freedom, freedom, yeah right, so he's that's what the song is about. It's like, we're not. You don't really have freedom, like you kind of yeah, some freedoms, but in overall you're not really as free as you might think you are. So urage. It's an illusion. Yes, YEP, so that's all. Let me tell you something else, though, when he screams freedom at the end, that that's so good. Dude. He could be ripping a hole in the fabric of time. Like just if you ever have a chance, please make sure you check out our spotify playlist and make sure you check out freedom if you haven't in a long time, or maybe you haven't ever before, because it's even a little crack in his voice where you think there's like almost an emotional, tender moment before he just starts ripping the live and hell out of it. And one might even be slightly lean to think, okay, that's just repetition. You just yelling freedom, but it's not the same man. This guy is just, like I said, just completely tearing it up at that doesn't just rock you into your core, my Lord, man, you better go to Bible camp and take some lessons. Like screw, did check your pulse? Yeah, and and the build up to right, because that he starts off very you know all I almost like whispering freedom, and then he goes yeah, right, and then and then it like bill, and then yeah, Morello, who's playing like very softly on guitar, just like that simple scale right, and then like it starts building up, and then he like growls when he's when he kind of says like yeah, it just likes then he just loses in it. All boy at least good. Oh yeah, yeah, he might, you know, be tearing that ripping a hole into the fabric of time, as you said, it's right time in reality completely shredded. Yeah, now, I mentioned before, you know, the Leonard Peltier was shown in the video. That's basically what the video was about. It was basically Leonard Peltier and like people washing and watching raging its machine, kind of like...

...a small show, probably for less than two hundred dollars a ticket. But but yeah, Leonard Peltier, he's an actually as an American activist who was charged with the murder of two FBI agents in one thousand nine hundred and seventy five at the Pine Ridge Indian reservation. And basically the video just like talks about how he was essentially host during his trial as the FBI withheld ballistic evidence. So eventually he, I think the charges were dropped to aiding and a bedding or something like that. But he's in prison serving to consecutive life sentence, as that was his that were that was the sentence for him. So yeah, and and he says he never killed them, he never shot them. He's he says he maybe shot at them in self defense, but basically he's as from why he remembers that the FBI agents essentially shot each other, just kind of in the crossfire, right. So it's an interesting story to which a lot of yeah, there's celebrities as well of taking up his cause. So I don't know if people put validity or stock in that because someone famous is like Hey, man, this guy. You not look at the fact straight. But I mean it is caused to concern. I read up on it a little bit myself prior to this episode and not being well versed in it, I can't say one way or the other, but it definitely does smell a little fishy to me. But yeah, it's an interesting story nonetheless. So I think anybody who's interested you should definitely hop on the World Wide Web and check that out. Yeah, and don't take the word from rich people. Fuck rich people. Yeah, we are raging, but I'm ready to pass the verdict here in kiss and we doesn't know what I'm going to go but dave freedom by rage against the machine. What are what are your thoughts? Are you think this is a legit hit or a song gone wrong? Well, I maybe was a little bit more veiled than you were throughout this entire show. I don't know. I mean I admitted I like the song quite a bit and I love the album a lot now freedom itself. lyrically it's very profound and musically is where I think it impresses me even more sometimes, because it's truly a journey. There's different tempos, different styles at play here, moods, if you will. We're in you get some really heavy parts, some more mellow parts, some more solo parts, some teases vocally as well, so it's really a journey, a true journey that I really enjoyed. It's I mean, I got to say, man, I think this song is a legit hit. I really do. I mean look, it came out in one thousand nine hundred and ninety two and I think rage their whole entire body of work. To be honest with you. I know you kind of shitting on a couple of their albums earlier, especially Morello's work, but this stuff, not only has the music stood the test of time, the message has as well. It's amazing and it's one of those things where you go like the Guy I was talking about the beginning of the episode who just didn't give a damn about any the lyrics. He like the JAM's. The jams are great, Tom Morello and the rest of the band are outstanding. Okay. I mean, could you imagine being in raging against machine and moreligious shows up? He's like, Hey, this is riff I came up with last night. You, you, you melt. You know I mean, there's not enough boxes of clean x in the world and Vassoline to prevent you from chafing from when he came over to start playing. You know what I mean? Yeah, but yeah, this song really is just fantastic. So, yes, indeed, legit hit from the Dave my sta now drew, please tell everybody it is a song gone wrong. Well, well, first of all, I'm not. I wasn't shitting on there their subsequent albums. I have anything. I find my fault, I think, with Tom Arrello's Solos and the other on his riffs are I think his riffs are still good. You know when you feel like when he uses just his like standard distortion, the occasional wat is fine, but then he like...

...use this makes his like random sounds, I'm like, come on, I don't even know what the hell you're doing, Bro. I feel like that kind of takes me out of the songs a lot. When he would do that, but the songs in general and their message is still good. And those other albums. Evil Empire is fucking great. Battle Los Angels, I think is good. I wouldn't say it's great, it's little good. But yeah, I mean everything you said basically. Yeah, the song. It does have a lot of like peaks and valleys. It's really interesting. You have brad utilizing the wood block. I love that. You know, anytime you have a heavy song like this and the the drummers hitting a wood block, that's fantastic. I love it. You know, this is actually the only rage against machine song I can play in its entirety on guitar, so I had that going for me. But yeah, I mean lyrically is great. Musically it's amazing, just all around great song. And it's a longer song too. It's over five minutes, but it's still like at no point in time do you get bored. It's like boy, this song is really dragging out. Nope, and then, if anything, get picks up steam at the very end too. So you're like Holy Shit when it's over. And this is the last song on the album, right, so everything they've talked about. Instead of like closing it out kind of a bit more calmly. They go the complete opposite direction and end aw bum full of, you know, rage and, you know, a very important message. He just cranks it to it's like twelve at the end of this album, because that was the last thing ye hear is him screaming at the end. So it's a great album closer. Yeah, it's a great album and it's a great song all around. So I'm saying legit hit. And look at us, we agree. We are please at peace with our decisions. But alas, we are not alone. There is another faction of folks that we need to consider here, and they are known as the fans. They sure are. So let's see what they have to say about it. All right. So the fans of spoken and they came out in droves yet again, and eighty one percent said that freedom by rage against machine is extra pause there. Yeah, it's a legit hit. Yeah, well, that's good. Smart folks they are. We got some feedback to wide eyed muppet at end Endi Nate said first rage song I listened to as a kid and still my favorite. Tim Tony Atwousand and sixty two, said legit, and Jed Shaffer at street to Jed said, rage against some machine is every insulated college sophomore that thinks they understand hardship because they saw do the right thing and are here to educate the sheep will by relentlessly screaming at them. Also hard to take your anti corporate image seriously when you're on a major label. Well, yeah, I think, as you mentioned to Dave, you know, I kind of agree with that, but then at the same point you kind of need to use that major label to get the message out to the masses. Yeah, exactly, that was my point earlier. Something well, okay, yeah, I get it right. You want to be hardcore, you want to be you don't want to be a sellout. Right, I follow you, but also think those are like the ideals of a young person who didn't have a lot to say. But if you are a band as profound really is raiging in some machine, you want people to know what you're talking about, even if it does fall on deaf ears to some, as we mentioned earlier. So you know, you using them or they using you? I guess will never know. It's like how many lickses it take to get to the center of a Tutsi rule pop just don't know, marry now it's actually forty to who? Three great, anything else, Dave, as we wrap up this lovely episode, I mean we'll me to talk more about American presidents and history new we can save that for I don't know. Drew gone wrong or somethings right.

Drew had a bad day, gone side. It's gonna have gone wrong at you and you can't say drew had a bad day. No one cares about that. Or how about? How about drew's Day gone wrong? There you go. As long as they it's like, listen to me, like start ripping into like American history or anything else. Yeah, whatever, whatever's on your mind. That's fine. I'll be our spin off our side guys. Okay, but until we get there, until we do that, I just want to thank the listeners for taking the time out of their day to listen to our show. I appreciate it. I love you and if I was in a room with you right now, things could potentially happen. Who knows, I might like your personality. Maybe a wink. Wait, what am I talking about? Oh Yeah, I'm talking about the listeners again. Thank you. Have a wonderful day. What is it with you and and people being in a room like you started off the episode with me being in your right. I'm lonely. Now you're in a room with the listener. I'm going. I'm extremely lonely. This pandemic. You know, I don't talk about it much. It's only been a year day, I know, but listen, you bring it up all the time. You like pandemic, pandemic, pandemically. Me, I rarely ever, even the word doesn't even come out of my mouth. But it's affecting me now. I think I need some some human interaction, satisfaction. Well, Malenta Sun you cookies. Yeah, that was an interaction. That was very nice. As fucking cookies, ever, they're good. All right, I guess we're good. Yep, all right, everybody. Well, thanks again for listening, and you can always follow us on twitter, instagram at songs gone drop us an email sgw podcast at gmailcoma. Is it our website, songs gone wrongcom and you can also check out our playlist on spotify songs gone wrong so that we can keep up the date with all the songs we discuss each episode. But until next episode already, thank you for listening to songs gone wrong.

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