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Partyman by Prince

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This episode we discuss the merits of an 80s classic, Partyman by Prince, as well as the Batman soundtrack. Can Prince really make anything amazing?

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Hey everyone, and welcome to songs gone wrong, where we, along with you, the fans, decide if he's had songs got it right, or did those songs go wrong? I'm one of your hosts, drew Zachman, and joining me as always as Dave Schultz. Sir Scholtz, how are you doing on this lovely day? Hey, hey, we get a live one here. I cannot wait to do this show. I'm so happy, I'm thrilled. I feel like that's genuine joy, because I know you were even looking forward to doing this song. Yeah, man, that's like my energy should be infectious here. You shouldn't be second guessing it. Give me a break, buddy, whoa. You'll hear why I'm second guessing, but that's not to say anything, because, guess what? We are talking about a great song today. Sure, and if you haven't done so already, make sure you hit subscribe to make sure you get all of our episodes when they come out, which in fact, US twice a week. Guys, twice a week. It's pretty good, and you could also leave us a five star review. That would be deeply appreciated, because that's that's how podcast grow, right, we can't. We can't hang with the JOE Rogan. He's he's rich, has a lot of money. So we need we need you guys to help us kind of get up their word of mouth. Tell your friends and then and then tell their friends, and then tell your friends friends, and then exactly and then have them leave us five star reviews as well, and it will be great and lovely. It's kind of like a plant, don't you think? I mean you can have a great house plant, you bring it home, it looks beautiful, but I mean it's going to die unless you give it some water, a little sunlight. PODCAST are the same way right, without some five star reviews, little word of mouth, what good are they? It's gonna wilt the way. Will do we? I don't want to wilt. Know he's give me some Wattah now. We do not. We don't want wilting here, which is funny because I will talk about that later in this episode. Boy, that was a Segway, Holy Shit. Anyway, now, guys, you can follow us on twitter at songs gone or drop us an email sgw podcast at gmailcom or visit our website, songs gone wrongcom. Now, if you want to suggest a song, by all means you can do so good to our website, songs gone wrongcom, and you can send that our way and you can also help support our show by going to songs gone wrongcom there, and that way we can have information there for how you guys can help support us. Now, this episode we are talking about the iconic party man from Prince Hmm, which was off of the Batman Soundtrack in nineteen eighty nine. The Michael Keaton, Jack Nicholson classic movie was so good. That was so good. Oh that dude, that movie was everything you can meet. So good is not doing it just as my I'm trying to keep it I'm trying to keep it basic right now. But it was written by prince but Dave, tell me some of your memories of this particular song. Bat Mania was running wild back in eighty nine and I was not immune to which charms. I love comic books growing up, enjoyed Batman and boy, this was a special time to be alive. If you weren't, or maybe you were just too young to remember the whole crazy scene in nineteen eighty nine, oh my God, you missed out on one hell of a good time. Yeah, it was. It was nuts to say the least. I mean, I saw I was nine when this came out. I honestly I don't remember hearing this song on the radio. I might have, I just don't remember it. But I do remember hearing bad dance on the radio and I remember Batman, as you said, being everywhere. Like when that movie came out, you could not escape it,...

...and I was okay with that. I remember we went to like a local carnival and like ninety three percent of the prizes there were Batman Themed Cups, shirts, you name it. Yes, they had them and I do believe I got a they're like those like plastic cups with like a weird grip on the top of the hand unto where your thumb is like. You can get those cups for like, probably like ten cents, but I remember I won some game at at the Carnival and I got a Batman Cup. I'm pretty sure it's, like you know, long gone by now, but yeah, I was pretty stoked. I was pretty stoked to get that. I also feel like I also feel like there's a lot of Bond Jovi prizes, but I grew up in New Jersey, so I feel like it was Batman and Bon Jovi at that time, drew. Listen man, the two best things you could ever win at a carnival where a band mirror, remember those? And they came in like the really crappy cardboard frame, yes, okay, or pair of Roach clips with feathers on it that you were too young to understand what they were actually intended for. So you, parish, just said they were a dream catcher and never won one of those. Oh, I must have missed out. Yep, you sure did, oh boys. So party man hit number eighteen on the US billboard hot one hundred the week of October, seventh one thousand nine hundred and eighty nine. Now overall, prince, I mean, rest in peace buddy, he is still is followed heavily on spotify. He has over nine point two million monthly listeners on spotify. So people, people still appreciate his good music. So let's take a look at some other songs that were on the billboard hot one hundred of that time in the US. Now, number one was another great song from Janet Jackson, called Miss you much, great tune, love it. Cherish by Madonna was number two. Girl, I'm going to miss you, by Millie Vanilli was number three. Yikes. Heaven from warrants was number four. Gross, such a great song and if I could turn back time from share wearing was not the more. She was like wearing like nothing on an aircraft carrier. Yeah, that's the worst place ever to be wearing a g string. I'm speaking from personal experience, so take it from me, don't do that. I do not have the experience of wearing like the what were they like? asslist chaps on on like a fucking aircraft carrier? Know that you're thinking like David Lee Roth or something. With those chaps. She was literally just had a dental floss on her backside. So Yep. Anyway, bottom line is we're clothes on aircraft carrier. But that song turn back time. was number five, and there's a lot of great tunes on the charts that. And you have love Song from the cure was number seven. Eighteen in life by skid row was number eight, sowing the seeds of love from tears for fear, as I love that group, that was number thirteen. Love and an elevator from Arrowsmith was sixteen and Dr feel good from Motley Crewe was seventeen. So that's like a pretty eclectic mix you have there. I told you, man, what time to be alive. Right. Seriously, no, absolutely, I am not disagreeing at all. Party man beat out cover girl from new kids on the block, which was nineteen, and Angeli's from the jeff hilly band was thirty one. I love that song and I love the he I love the Jeff Hilly band and also I loved Healy and Roadhouse, by the way. HMM, so good. Speaking of films, sure, such a great movie. Another song outside, and now outside the top forty at number forty two, and I'm mentioning it because it's our show and I'm going to fucking talk about because I love the song and I love the band. Number forty two was glamor boys from living color. Absolutely love that song and living color is criminally underrated. Everybody listen to them, such talented musicians. They right. Anyway. Now back to print. Now, prince basically did the entire Batman Soundtrack and it was it was good. And and you...

...know what we always like to ask us, how does the song we're talking about compared to the other songs on the album? Well, all the songs are for the Batman Movie, but you can pull most of them out on their own and they're still cool songs. I love the future and even scandalous. But Party man, it does kind of get you out of your seat and it usually puts you in a good mood. And everybody knows every everybody knows bat dance and that's a great song to claise out the album. But yeah, it's a it's a good it's a good mix on there and again it's coming from Prince. So yeah, but you know, bat dance gets all the glory, gets all the girls, gets all the love. But I think party man is better than bad a dance. Do you yeah, that was like a little pause there. You kind of shocked, like, how dare he say such a thing? Who Are you? Why am I on the air with you? But not seriously, because party man is okay. First off it's too long and then secondly it takes samples from the movie and a bad dance. Yeah, Bat dance. Sorry, it puts it in the song, while party man stands on its own. Okay, because hopefully everybody listening has seen the one thousand nine hundred and eighty nine Tim Burton Batman Film. But there is an iconic scene in the flick in a museum where the joker is trying to impress Vicky Vale, and the Song Really says the tone for that entire scene. Bat Dance doesn't have that credibility. Okay, that's just a song put out to be related to the film, to market the movie, but it's not integrated into the film like party man is the I I agree with that. I'm not disagreeing at all. Okay, I was going to say when that scene comes on, they click play on the boom box. You just hear that. Hey, hey, yeah, you like, oh here it comes, here it comes, just pure goodness and all hail the new king in town. The you go and, like you said, it makes you want to dance. Dude, the song is great for that. And I don't really I don't know if I have like a cold dead soul inside of me, but it takes a lot for me to get out of my seat and kind of do the two step, do the Charleston any of those cool moves all the other kids doing out there right now. But this song totally gets my juice is flowing. It does, know, it does for sure. It's I mean it's called Party man. Yeah, it's makes you want to party, man. Yeah, okay, drew. Now, when you when you look at the lyrics of a song, right, the song, I think, is actually like an honest look at climate change and and how the gradual warming of the earth is leading to more severe storms. You know, the ice caps are melting and the gradual rise of sea levels are, you know, all over the planet. And you know, Prince also touches on methane, since the ton of methane absorbs much more heat than, you know, a ton would of carbon dioxide. So what I think prince is really trying to say, and party man, is that we continue to party, we won't have a planet. Sweet Mother of God, man, are you for real right now? Either either either that or he's just talking about the joker, one or one of the other. Yeah, dude, like totally, man, I don't know what you're thinking about. Dude going all crazy in depth on this stuff, but you know, speak, you got to be kidding this. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Are you really yeah, methode for this aut global warming here, come on, ru I mean you know you just brought up the joker, right, because yes, back to that scene I was talking about. You automatically fuse the two, right and being that big joker scene, you think the song is about the joker, but it doesn't have to be. The joker is never mentioned in the song at all. It's true. That's true. Yeah, yeah, so he never says all hail the joker in town. Never needs it, doesn't even need to. Just the moment you hear it, you know who he's referring to, and that's the beauty of it. He's I mean King. Yeah, but you know how...

...many songs in the history of music refer to superheroes? Mostly they're about Superman. Some are good, some are bad, but not many refer to villains, if at all. And then even when, if they do, if that does exist out there, and I'm not aware of it, that's all fine and Dandy, but in this one, yet again, doesn't need to mention anybody and association is already there. That's an amazing thing that's burned into people's psyches and I love it. I love the fact my brain is branded by Prince No, and that's an again, that goes to his level of genius and a just and then also how Tim Burton also put it all together too, as a total, complete package. HMM, sure, yeah, I mean the song is not so man. I mean when you when you look into lyrics, dude, they are insane. Right. Take this verse for example, and this is easily my favorite verse in the entire Song. Princess Ain't nothing but a muffin. We got a lot of butter to go. Yeah, and and if it break, when it bends, you better not put it in. Oh Yeah, was that meant for another movie? I'm not sure now. That was about my paying guess that's what that was. A BAS global warming right there, baby, talk about it. Utter but butter on that thing. But no, I but that's the great thing. It's like you don't need the substance there either. You know, it doesn't matter with the music is so good. Okay, it's just a great jam. So the lyrics are kind of I don't know, man, that is tossed in for fun and because it's Prince. You know it's going to be good. It's going to be musically well crafted and lyrically it's gonna be a lot of sexual innuendo in there. Yet again, who we talking about? Who is the writer of this song. I mean, come on now, yeah, so, yes, you know, but then you know. You have the iconic line to song, right. You know, all hail the new king in town. That, that, and basically get that flaccid shit out of here. Prince doesn't want it, know, does the joker? Who would? Nobody. That's how we get global warming. Kids. You're a terrible science teacher, drew. You know I love about this song is how he gets deep, not not lyrically, just his vocal tone, and he says, tell you what is name is, and then they hit you with a potty man, body man, rock, potty, lack, nobody. I mean it just the flow, dude. I don't know, man, it just it's like right now. I won't reveal what time of night that we're recording at, but I should probably be in bed. But no, because I'm talking about this song, singing the lyrics. I want to get up and have a good time. I don't have any butter on me, but hey, that's of no fault on my own. Again, it's late at night, I'm not near the fridge. I just want to pot like no one can. I was going to say if you have butter on you, I don't know to tell you, ma'am. Well, yeah, I'm not wielding a stick of butter. Okay, that be a weird thing. Just be like walking around waving butter at people. Are you listen to me? Also, like it gets all over like our like your microphone when you're recording as it's just the mess. Yeah, because kids, if you're you know a lot of kids, you know during the pandemic, you're going to be homeschooling right, at least for the first couple months or so, going virtual. Dude, just don't. Don't have butter like in your hand or on your person while you're doing your class, for numerous reasons, but just don't. Okay, if that's any child or anybody, service announcement, if any miners are listening right now and taking any serious advice from US whatsoever, there is. Yeah, your life is Oh, yeah, it's not going to get good from here. It's gonna be bad. Life will be bad. Yeah, I'll so your parents are failing you. So yeah, and they're probably going to sue US. So let's carry on, shall we? Yeah, no more butter. So yeah, so this lyrically, you know, it's fun. You know it does as it's, as you said, get you up and the music along with a right it gets you up and and you want to you want to party. It just puts you in a good mood. Dude, I sang that. That's that's it.

Man, if I start singing on this show, you know it's got to be good. Yeah, that's exactly what that means. Yep, so I think that's that's a good segue. That'll lead us right to our final verdict here. So so what do you think? Did you did you find that party man was a legit hit, or do you think party man was a song that went wrong? Well, I mean, if you've listened to this episode up until now, I think you kind of know where I'm going with this. But Really, besides the bias I talked about earlier, with people prefer the Bat dance over Party Man, which I think is basically just a complete crime against music as a whole, this song holds up incredibly well all these years later, and yet again you can put party man on a pedestal all of its own without having the context of the movie and appreciating it for what it is. US slamming print song. I'm not personally a prince fan. I've never owned any of his albums, but but I can truly appreciate his artistry and I think it was on fine display here. This song is a hit. Absolutely. Paint my face white, color my hair green. Let's broaden our minds. Laurence Lauren's. Yeah, this this song. You know, first off, I and we didn't get it. We didn't talk about it yet, but this song had candy Dolfer on Saxophone. Now, I don't know if anyone remembers Candy Dolfer, but she had a song, I believe it was called Lily. was here and that song charted the US billboard hot one hundred. Pe can get number eleven and I think that was in one thousand nine hundred and ninety. When I hear that Song I'd think of shadow Stevens introducing, you know, canny Dolfer. Lily was here on American top forty. But she's, I mean she's a very talented musician and prince got her on this song. Also, I'm pretty sure that song was in like eighty seven percent of porn movies and early S. Oh yeah, right right along with enigma's sadness part one. You remembered a song. What enigmas sadness part one. Yeah, I think I got a massage once to that song, and I don't want to talk about that because that in fact did involve a lot of butter. So now, but it's not to keep that my back pocket. Yeah, yeah, that song. Holy Shit. Anyway, I'm I'm getting way off track here, party man. Okay, so here's the deal. So I overall right you. When you look at Prince's entire catalog, this is not, at least in my opinion, his best song. Now, I love Prince. I think he was insanely talented and if he had, for every reason. If you don't believe me and you don't think princess talented, just watch his super bowl halftime show or watch the video from two thousand and five teen where Prince Steve Winwood, Jeff Lynn, Danny Harrison and Tom Petty. We're playing while my guitar gently weeps, Prince goes off and it is something to behold. Like I seriously watched that video like once a month at least and just stare in awe at how fucking cool princes about, to mention how insane he is on guitar. He's just that cool. And and party man is while, like I said, it is this isn't his best song, but this song is fucking cool. Now I also, and I know you were talking about how you think this is better than bad dance. I personally my preference is bad dance and I think maybe it's because I'm maybe it's because I'm more into guitar music, bore. Maybe I don't. Maybe that's just something I really like to focus on and songs. But you know, there's a pretty crazy guitar solo and bad dance step that prince does. Now maybe that's probably why I gravitate towards that song. I don't know if I would have put party man at eighteen on the hot one hundred, I would say maybe in the s which I think is fair, but it still makes it a hit right and I'd be fine with that. So overall, I say yes, party man is in fact a legit hit. You know what drives me crazy about bad dance to is how...

...they reference Batman Sixty six in that song and they do the Batman and I'm like, Dude, this movie is leaps and bounds and eons away from that camp sty style of film. Yet they kind of refer to it because it's catchy. I get it and it's recognizable, but that always rubbed me the wrong way. I don't know. Yeah, now, this was this was definitely not. This is this was pretty serious. Now this is like a darker look at the comic compared to the, you know, kind of like the the comic, comicy feel that you know, the show had with Adam West, which was which, which fun and good, but this was definitely a different look at it. And you know, I think Keaton did a great job. I think I think he was a little bit ahead of his time and I think people enjoyed that movie, but I don't think they really enjoyed it as much as when Christian bail came out with his, you know, rendition of Batman, which was also good, also very serious, right. That was very real and gritty and I don't I always feel like Keaton and that original Batman movie didn't get its it didn't get credit where it was due. Kind of you know, it was it was a little bit ahead of its time but kind of actually reminds me of I'm a big James Bond Fan and you know, I so I grew up, you know, obviously you know watching the Roger Moore movies from like the S, and obviously I've seen every freaking bond movie ever, numerous times usually. But you know, growing up, Roger Moore was the bond at that time. You know, the s you had was an octopusy, I think came out like in the in the early to mid S, and after that then you had timothy doll and, who was essentially Daniel Craig before Daniel Craig, you know, like the the Dalton movies were very real and very gritty and it was definitely a step in the complete opposite direction from what Roger Moore was like. And I love Roger Moore, don't get me wrong, but it was just his or more serious and and very realistic too. But then I don't think people were ready for it, much like people, I think, didn't show Batman the love that it deserved. It's like I said, it did. It did get some love. I just think it needed a bit more. I don't want to get too far into the weeds here, considering we are a music show, not a movie or Comic Book Show or Pop Culture Show per say, but fans of the source material were accustomed to a dark version of Batman. It was just that people at large new Adam West and burt ward climbing up the side of the building. Style can't be yet again, you know, very pop art. It was a fun thing to look at, but that sixty six Batman series. So, yeah, everybody else was taken aback. Oh my God, this movie so dark and what have you. And everybody else is like, yeah, well, you just not familiar with Batman. Are you there? NEWBI? So I don't know, but the song is a hit. I'm glad you agree with me, but I'm more curious now to what do the fans think? So the fans also agree with us, which is which is great news. Sixty six percent say yes, this is a legit hit. Yeah, you're just talking about sixty six right. Yeah, I know, it's trippy. I don't know, man, is this for real? Am I signing Deja vous? Oh my God, I'd better go buy a scratch, take it right now and then go rub it off and then, while dousing yourself and butter, listening to candy dolpher. I was going to say there's not enough butter in the row for that baby yeah, Ho, yes, so, yes, that's two thirds, two thirds. That's pretty legit. And they, they say, yes, this is a hip because a good jam. What can I say? You don't need to think too much about it, you don't have to take it too seriously. You just have to be willing to have a good time. That's it. That's the title. Man, party man, party man, Yep,...

...party, party, fucking man by Prince. He really is good on guitar. I know he is so good. Anyway, anything else to an ad for this wonderful episode of Party Man by Prince? No, I just want to thank everybody for tuning in. I appreciate it. You Guys Rock, and make sure you go check out a website. What are you waiting for? The show is over, so now you can go jump on over there and have more of a good time. That's right. And our website, if you don't know, songs gone wrongcom, and you can also find us on twitter at songs gone you can drop us an email. SGW podcast at GMAILCOM and you know, like I said, if you guys go to our website, songs gone wrongcom, you can suggest a song. You know, it'll all happen there on the website. You can, you know, help support the show. Any little bit helps and we are always appreciative of it. So thanks again for listening to songs gone wrong. Hey, drew, you never brought up the whole thing about withering away. You said you're going to talk about it later when I brought up the house plant. Now it's the end of the show and you're going to leave us all hanging. What happened there? Well, Whoa? So the with the well, the withering away was really the withering away to me, and my mind was like, you know, when Prince says and if it break, when it bends, you better not put it in. So you don't want to be withering basically dirty. I am dirty man. I'm dirty man, dirty man. Drew fucking dirty whenever he can. You know what? Well, I was researching the lyrics to this song and don't don't give me any lip. Okay, well, those are those are those are princes words, not mine. Okay, you got it. Yeah, you just punch line. Was a little non joker risk. I'm very serious, I know, very serious. All right, thanks you, everybody for listening to songs gone wrong. Totals keys, bye bye, audios. I've been his head.

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