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Silent Lucidity by Queensryche

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This episode Drew and Dave talk about another 90s classic, Silent Lucidity by Queensryche, but does this 90s power ballad still hold up? They also discuss a potential Power Ballad Week and why that would be much better than Shark Week. Dave still calls Sade, Sade, and the guys give a shout out to Lenny the elf who makes all of their stickers.

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Hey everyone, and welcome to songs gone wrong, where we, along with you, the fans, decide if these hit songs got it right or did those songs go wrong? I am one of your host drew Zachman enjoining me as always, as Dave Schultz. Dave, how are you doing, sir? I'm great. Thank you for asking, and I'm going to help you see it through. Oh, I see what you did there. Yep, I'm good like that. It's what I do. Yeah, this, this episode, is going to be a good one. There all. I mean, let's be honest, they're all good, you know ex yet this is one of those songs that I have a have a lot to talk about. And Yeah, well, we'll get into that, but before we do, if you guys haven't done so already, make sure you hit subscribe to make sure get all of our episodes when they come out, which in fact, is twice a week, and if you could also leave us a five star review, that would be deeply appreciated. And if you do, let us know and then give us your mailing address and we'll mail out some songs gone wrong stickers to you. Is a show of our appreciation. Yep, and I was going to say. You know, hats off to Lenny the sticker Elf, who's been working in his little tree house around the clock for US manufacturing these stickers. I know he's been very busy. Christmas is right around the corner. But you know what, this guy is dedicated to making sure the five star reviews get the recognition that they deserve with an awesome sticker. Yeah, yeah, he works hard, that Lenny. Yep, sure it does. It was when. Yeah, we appreciate it. Well, you know what, we'll give him some stickers to I don't think he wants to see another sticker for the rest of it's my born life. You might be right about that, HMM. or You can follow us on twitter or Instagram at songs gone you can drop us an email sgw podcast at gmailcom or visit our lovely website, songs gone wrongcom, where we have our fun videos up. Now we have a we have a think we're up to three right now, which is good. Hopefully by time this on Narras, maybe I can crank out another one. But yeah, they're like those pop up videos from vhone back in a day, but we kind of put our own little spin on it, making things fun for you. That's what we do here, absolutely educate and entertain. That's our goal. Now this episode we got a lot to get into, but we are talking about a Chriss is a great song. We're talking about silent lucidity from Queens Reich, which was off their album empire, which came out in one thousand nine hundred and ninety and Guitarist Chris Dagarmo wrote this song. And if you don't know who Chris Da Garmo was, he also toured with Jerry Cantrell from Alison chain's fame during his one thousand nine hundred and ninety eight solo tour and also helped contribute to Cantrell's two...

...thousand and two album degradation trip. Also, he co found that a super group called spies for Darwin. Have you ever heard of them? Dave smiles for Darwin? I have not. They were I didn't know about them until maybe a couple of years ago, but basically it was a they only had like a small EP, maybe like six or so songs on there and that was it. But I checked them out and they that group comprised of members from Queens Reich right. So they had Christa Garmo in there. You had some other members from Alison chains and sponge. You had Sean Kinney and Mike Einez from Alison chains, the drummer and Bass player, and Viny Dombroski, the singer from sponge. So neat little super group that I didn't know about. It's, like I said, until a couple of years ago it wasn't bad. The little EP they had out it was okay, okay, cool, not that not the best super group out there. But yes, spies for Darwins, I just found that to be like an interesting combination because they had members from a couple bands that I like all of them. So you haven't fully sold me on them. I mean you like, yeah, they're a little bit of a super group, they're okay, but they're no, yes, you know, yeah, I mean they're not velvet revolver or audio slave. You know, they're not right. They're not at that level at all. But it was, it was okay. I'm not really selling them because I don't think it was that fantastic. But well, you've only been talking about it for ten frigging minutes already. It's worth checking out just to just to say, Hey, I check them out. It's also a good trivia because, like, nobody knows about that. So there you go, right dropping information. But yeah, so silent lucidity Du what are some of your memories of this song? I had a friend, well, I still have him as a friend, but you know how life goes. You don't get to see people from your youth as much as you would like to. Well, we're in a pandemic day, we don't see anybody. This is this has nothing to do with the pandemic. Has Everything to do with my personality, understand. But he was a massive Queens Reich Fan. Anywhere we went, road trips, hanging out in his apartment, whatever the case, maybe Queens Reich was always blasting and I couldn't say I was the biggest Queens Reich fan at the time, but I was always exposed to them. Well, I'm glad you're exposed to them and not exposing yourself in other ways. That happened that day, but while listening to Queens Reich. Well, listen, the police records are sealed, okay, and I'm not cracking those bad boys open for anybody. So I carry on. My friend. You can keep digging, but you're in the wrong hole. Keep you. I keep that locked up. But yeah, I remember this song came out, you know, I remember shadows Stevens pimping this out on American top forty. I remember the video. I remember the video and then I got away from it for a little bit. But then when I became a dad, like I randomly listen to it again and it kind of hit me in another way, and we'll get into that with the lyrics. But I mean I've been listening to the song for the better part of thirty years now. Vhone actually ranked...

...this as the twenty one best power ballad. Dave, I'm Naski. What do you think the number one power ballad was per mov h one? Oh boy, and that's and this is from like the S to, I'm sorry, s s two thousand and ten. Wow, I don't know if I even want to take a stab at that. I I was going to kind of think or I was going to try to talk about at one point during the show. So I guess it is no better time than now. How the early s had some power ballads from hard rock, eye artist that did very well, whether it was Mama, I'm coming home from Ozzy Osborne and what was the one from Metallica at the time? Nothing else matters. Nothing else matters, you know. And these were huge, massive hits. And I almost want to say nothing else matters because Metallica was probably, or you know, is, one of the biggest music artist of all time. But really that's just, you know, flailing around wild guests. So why don't you tell me and our listeners? What did the Almighty vh one designate as their number one ballad, power ballad of all time? I was surprised, but number one was open arms by journey. Really, yeah, I don't Huh. Don't know how I feel about that, but I don't know. I don't know either. Actually, you know, it's one of those things where I kind of when you. You said it was ballads, though, right, not just power ballads. I think it was power ballads because for me, journey like they a lot of the catalog is power ballads. And Yeah, it's not like they were like heavy or anything like that. No, exactly. Like a power ballad to me is like when the band is like heavier ish and then they kind of you know what, let's go soft for a little bit. Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, it's kind of like saying, Oh, well, what's the best yacht rock song of all time? And then, you know, maybe a sweet freedom will hold on. We might talk about them and the feet will talk about that song in the future. But I was going to say it's just like saying Christopher Cross, Oh, yes, every song he did. You know what I mean, right, but but you get an I'm saying where I want. If you were, if I was going to make the list, it would have to be kind of like deviating from their material a little bit and exploring different avenues, and then I go, okay, that was unique, that was special because it's not what they would, you know, ordinarily do. It's not what made them or what their sound is primarily about. Yeah, but I would different kind of cat, you know. So who knows this? Why no one asked me to make any lists. They don't want me to do that. That's hey, you know what? I know? I agree with you because, as I was looking over that list, I was like, so they did. So they did not have sigon kicks, love is on the way on there and the top twenty five. I feel like that should have been MMM more than words by extreme not on there, which I'm calling BS. They had, and this is why I'm kind of like upset about they had, only God knows why, by Kid rock at nineteen. So I feel like this list was orshit to begin with, but what Yack. But yeah, anyway, some of those bands I was talking about right, like extreme and psigone kick, just like Queen's Reich. A lot...

...of people's first taste of them was, you know, probably due to a power ballad that made its way to the mainstream, right. But if you listen to all those bands, they're not soft rock bands at all. You know, if you listen to the Lizard from Saigon Kick, which is what love is on the way is off of that out that albums awesome, by the way, and it is heavy. Love is on the way is not representative of what they do, and maybe we can talk about that song on, you know, a future episode of songs gone wrong. But more than words, same thing. We should also talk about that song, but you know, the same thing. You know, extreme is a little bit of a heavier group and that song is not representative of what we do. I think we should do like power. We should like power ballad week on. There just kind of like shark week, but power ballad week. I feel like we should do that. I would not be opposed to that. The power ballad power our who lasting a full seven that you say? Yes, this list what does crank out episodes all day. If Lenny can make some tshirts along with those stickers and we can have like a whole thing going on, a whole event, maybe we'll be as big a shark week eventually. You never know, probably bigger. I think people like power ballads more than sharks. I don't know, I don't know. I think so anyway. Yes, and they right. You have more than words by extreme. You know, that's their heavy band. And you have Queens Reich here silacidity, and then he listened to empire. You're like, Oh, these guys pretty much rock. You know, s yeacidity is not, you know, representative of their overall catalog, but it does show what they can do. But sight lucidity peaked at number nine on the US billboard hot one hundred back in June of one thousand nine hundred and ninety one. And overall, silent city has been streamed over thirty six million times on spotify and Queens Reich has over eight hundred and fiftyzero monthly listeners. So digging into the chart a little bit, for that particular week back in June of ninety one, the top five had these jams there. Number one was I don't want to cry by Mariah Carey. Two was more than words by extreme so another power ballad made the hot one hundred at the same time. Three was I want to sex you up by color me bad. We are absolutely going to talk about that song on this show. For is love's a wonderful a wonderful thing, by Michael Bolton, and five is rush, rushed by Paula Abdul. And then rounding got the top ten. Number six was I like the way the kissing game by high five. I remember that one. Number seven was losing by religion, by Ram. Eight was touching me on that long by Cathy Dennis. Nine was the aforementioned silent lucidity, and ten was rhythm of my heart by Rod Stewart. Boy, I remember that song, as those probably everybody's mom but some other great tunes on a chart that week were power of Love, love Hower by Luther Vandross. Such a silky, smooth voice that Luther had. Twenty one was joy wide by rock set, another great tune. Twenty three was playground by another bad creation. I feel like that is a song gone wrong, episode into making. Twenty nine was right here, right now,...

...by Jesus Jones. Thirty three was voices that care, by voices that care. You remember that one? No S bar for me, will you? I think it's like voices that care are crying out loud. That doesn't do much for me without the whole, you know, the rhythm to it. So anyway, another great ballad was I'll never let you go by steal heart at thirty nine. That was like some solid leftover s cheese. I learned. But yeah, when you look at it right there is, you know, couple ballads, you know power ballads in there in the top forty and there was two of them in the top ten. So I feel like that's a I feel like there's a lot of good songs on that hot one hundred list, but overall there's definitely some some similarities there. Sure. Yeah, like I said, this song is off the album empire and I think it's one of the slower songs right on the album. Overall, I think the album's pretty damn good. Yeah, I think we can both agree at slaps. Yes, I mean empire's a great song with through on jet's Jet City woman, Great Song. Great Song. There's a lot of good songs and our empires fantastic. But what are your thoughts on the album overall, I mean besides the slappiness? Well, the thing is, I when you ask my memories, I told you I had a friend who was a massive fan of Queens Reich. Yeah, and it's one of those things where, just by proximity, I had to listen to him. I never needed to own an album because anytime I was hanging out with this guy, there were always on. Now, the album itself, I think, and this is one of those testaments to how good it is, has survived the test of time wherein you can pop it on now and it sounds even better than it did when it originally came out. And one of the main reasons why I bring this up is I do not like songs that are way too long for their own good. If I look at a track and I see it's like eight minutes long or something, I go, Oh God, why, why does anybody need to craft an eight minute long song, unless you're tool or high on drugs. Seriously, but if you listen to tol you might be both. It's fair, very fair. But the final song on Empire is called anybody listening, and this song comes in at seven minutes and forty two seconds, but you would think when you listen to it it's too short because it is just pierced your chest echo on the drums which, for some reason, if we look at our are archives of the songs we've talked about. Any time there's an echo effect on drums, I'm always in. I'm like, yeah, I don't know why, it's like. I like it. The lyrics are great, the vocals are great, everything in that song. Just if you would ask me, like what is one of the best songs everage to ended album, anybody listening has to be high up there for me. So Vah one K, if you need to make a list on final tracks on a record, I guess you can call me. We can work from there, or you don't. We could. We can make a playlist.

Oh No, Yep, you know, that's that's that's my department right there. I'm like yeah, belie, if you play make a playlist of last songs and an album one of those last songs has to go first and then it loses its power, gets deluded. Can't have what if? But what if? What if I just like record myself just saying this is the playlist, so that way that track goes first and then but then it goes secon you know, any musical second it's not. It's not. The doesn't close the show anymore. I don't know. I guess we could look into it, but I'm kind of against it, at least on the surface. Let's talk to lenny about to see what he says. I think Lenny's busy making sticks for those five star reviews. Yeah, we don't really give him. We don't like give him any breaks to it. We should probably let him off for Christmas Day slave labor. Yeah, yeah, I'm not agree. I mean that that album is fantastic, but lyrically, I'll tell you what, Dave, this is a I feel like this is a doozy here. You know, you know me and how I love the dig in a lyrics. I feel like this is a good one. Now I'm going to jump ahead a little bit and kind of spoil what the songwriter wrote this about, and that is lucid dreaming. So, along with our good friends over at creed, this is the Second Song we've actually talked about that deals with lucid dreaming, along with hire. Now, with that being said, there's a lot to unpack here at also, I think this song is much better than higher, just to get that out there now. The song starts off with what seems like maybe a parents going in to check on their child who is having a nightmare. You know they start with Hush, don't you cry, wipe away the tear drop from your eye. You're lying safe in bed. It was all a bad dream spinning in your head. I feel like I can identify with a lot, since our our youngest, was like a horrible sleeper for two years. I love her dearly, but for two years it was just like every night you would get up like two or three times and then again recently, actually, she's for now, but like the over like September and October, she was like getting up every night. I don't know why, but but if like, the song kind of helps me understand like where they're coming from, you know, instead of getting angry, kind of this song actually helps kind of keep me calm and help appreciate what they're going through and just be empathetic, you know, like when I would go in and try to get my youngest back to sleep after they woke up and start crying, I would just pick them up walk around a house for like thirty minutes, forty five minutes, and and honestly, like this song we kind of be playing in my head. You know, it's like it's like a good little Lullaby Song, you know, and I feel like it's appropriate for that moment and I feel like it's you know, I don't know, it's a good tune and I feel like, from like a parenting standpoint, this song is very appropriate. Okay, well, I'm actually kind of impressed because, you know, we're aware that you live in a palatial estate and that you have, you know, really big property. So it's amazing that you carry a child all the way through that, you know, labyrinth of yours that you call a home and some pretty good exercise. I hope you had a playlist for that lucidity. No, yeah, I would just like play that song in my head and that would be about it. But yeah, it's that. We und see. I would just like like walk,...

...walk around laps in the circle in our family room. That's pretty much what I would do. Okay, so get my steps in at zero in the morning. But you know, so the song kind of starts off like they're talking about a parent helping to, you know, sue the child, and then it shifts gear slightly more into that lucid dreaming. Perhaps that's where Jeff says you know, it's a place where you will learn to face your fears or trace the years and ride the whims of your minds commanding in another world. Suddenly you hear and see this magic new dimension which that sounds more like lucid dreaming there. But then the chorus kicks in where it says I'll be watching over you, I'm going to help you see it through, I will protect you in the night, I'm smiling next to you, and silent lucidity. That kind of sounds more like a parent watching over and helping your kids. I feel like there's kind of like a dual theme here. I guess you can say Stalker. could be a crazy person who broke in your house and is watch you sleep. Could very well be. I don't think it's that, but you never know. Hmm, you never know. But my favorite, my favorite line in the song is where he says if you open your mind for me, you won't rely on open eyes to see. That's that's such a great line. And that line there right can be open to even more interpretation because you know me, I love, you know, overanalyzing the shit out of everything. But that could be about lucid dreaming. But I feel like they're also could be like a religious tone to a little bit, you know, just kind of going off of like faith a little bit. But I think this, the way they wrote it, is probably more lucid dreaming, but if you didn't know that ahead of time, it could be interpreted a couple different ways. And then during the solo there's this like weird I don't know if you could, it's tough to make it out, but there's this like weird, almost distorted voice that says visual lies, your dream, recorded in the present tense, put it into a permanent form. If you persist in your efforts, you can achieve dream control. So that, I think right there that leans towards that lucid dream theme. And then at the end of the song, Jeff Tate, who's the lead singer for Queens, right at least at that time, sayings around trip journey in your head. Master of illusion, can you realize your dreams alive, you can be the guide. So I feel like they kind of wrap it up and I feel like that's you know what about the whole hug me bit? You even bring that up, what hug me bit, when you're just talking about the the spoken word part. Yeah, and right at the end of that you hear the woman come in and say hug me. I thought she was saying help me. I thought I was hug me because I'd rather have a hug than help. I mean, I guess that like zero in the morning, you know, if you're having a badroom, I would like a hug too. Yeah, well, that always. The reason why I bring that up in particular is because for me that's like a throwback to operation mind crime, one of their previous albums, which was really my think, one of my first exposures to a concept album, which was really cool, because now that kind of stuff doesn't impress me very much, but when you're younger or you're a teenager, or at least in my case, I was really wild by that, like, Oh my God, each song is intertwined and it works together to make a larger story, when normally you think of songs like...

...a little individual poems, if you will. Yeah, with each has like a different tone or a set to kind of like Hook you in and maybe to sell a record. But with with them doing operation mind crime, they're like, no, we are going we quit. This whole thing mapped out, we've written this mini novella and we're putting it in music form and at the I mean seriously, I thought that was super cool. Yeah, I think that. So I think she is saying help me, and I think that's from a hell razor movie if I'm not mistaken. No, let's hug me. Okay, I'm going to say what I want to say and I'm going to say anyway I want to say it, and right now I'm saying hug because I need one. Okay, I mean, I would given to you, but I'm I'm not a lenny. Yeah, tell him to put the stickers down and give you a hug hog. May I, Leonard, maybe have to be formal with him. Calm, Leonard, Leonard, Leon are the Sticker Elf. It's kind of like that Jeff Tay spelled the GEO FF. I believe I just did that correctly, but correct I always thought that was like a funny way to Spell Jeff. I'm like, come on, for Real, it's like gee off, geoff, just some that F I knew. So growing up I was a big hockey fan and I feel like there are a lot of hockey players that spelled jeff that way. Yeah, like Jeff Sanderson, Jeff Court, and I feel like there's a couple couple jeffs that spelled it that way. I don't know, I got a problem with that. It's like, because I was that person who called shode a sade for years. Oh Boy, yeah, oh boy is right, and then like I was like yeah, Sade is okay, and the like who the hell are you talking about? And like you know, you need me, like the desert, NEAT MS, the rain or whatever the hell of the song was, and they're like no, like no, that's that shod day. I'm like, well, where the way the shot? Where is the shot come into it? How does that even? You know? Come on, now, I hear you, now, I hear you. So, yeah, fucking Jeff Tait. I will say this, though. He's from Germany, right. I think. Actually, you know what, I believe you might be right, but I haven't discussed the origins of Queen's break and probably since this song came out with that that good Pala Mine. Okay, so as far as, like, yeah, where he's from, I couldn't say with with a hundred percent certainty. So I don't want to like mislead people. For All you know, I could just say Mars. But I was in a band when I was a teenager and we would abandon all I'm kind, not officially. I I would jam a bit with a couple of my friends. US just play guitar by myself. Okay, a sad sounds, which sounds yeah, I was yeah, sounds very sad, but we like it. It's fun playing Gutsar. No, no, it is. Don't get me wrong people. The reason why I bring this up, drew, is because normally bands get together out of locality, right, you know somebody went to high school with somebody or your friends with friends of somebody. Can you imagine the the sheer luck? It's like a lottery ticket, because JEFF TATE is an UN fucking believable vocalist. Like he is outstanding.

Could you believe or can you imagine, rather starting a band and someone being like, Oh yeah, I get a guy who's willing to sing on a few tracks for us see if it works out, and they bring over Jeff Taite, you like, I don't know, man, dollars, signs are you popping up in your eyeballs like an old s cartoon or something? You know, yeah, we're gonna hit the big time with this guy, GAAR ownteed. Well, I mean they did. I mean this this album, I think, was their best selling album. So well, yeah, again, as it should be. It's a great record. I want to see it. I mean when I know, when I used to jam with with other kids who's are like yeah, people of marginal talent, or even, in my case, yeah, he's okay, he's not great. Yeah, Jeff fucking tate. Yeah, even I had I have to swear when I say his name is. That's his middle name. Actually. Yeah, well, Jeremy is German for incredible, because seriously, that's just like I you would never want to stop jamming, you never want to stop playing with him in your bag, unless he's a complete psycho, but even then you let it happen. You'd be like, be crazy, jeff sounds like joff. It's okay, because you sing so good, I don't care. It's like dating a really hot chick who just might be nuts. He's put up with with certain things because they're they're gorgeous, right. Yeah, it's I mean, my friends not used to call it the Randy Moss Syndrome. You know, Randy Moss was, you know, terror, you know, outside of the fields, you know he's always getting into trouble or doing something stupid, but the guy was a monster like every single game and he was an absolute game changer for the Vikings and eventually the Patriots. But I mean, so you just kind of put up with his bullshit. And Yeah, it's Herrell Owens like that kind of player. Yeah, that's exactly what that's exactly what happened with Jeff. Take he went from Minnesota and he went to Oakland. He kind of sucked, but then he went to New England and he said Yeah, and then he had it was old self. Then he had a really good quarterback. Yeah, there you go, good old Jeff. Yeah, that maybe the Second F and Jeff means fucking. So yeah, yeah, I what it is. Yep, get that right. Kiddo. That's like. Who Was it Pearl Jam there? So they were called Mooky blaylock before they became Pearl Jam and they forget who, like the original singer was. But then they knew somebody from the the Chili peppers and he was like, Oh, I know a guy in San Diego, and it wound it being Eddie vetter. So then Eddie sent like a demo tape to the guy from the Chili peppers and then I think it was the drummer before, Chad Smith, if I'm not mistaken, and so that they he passed out along to the guys from prol jam like yeah, we should probably get them up here, and that's that. Yeah, but see, that's a little some years later. Right. That's cool, don't get me wrong, but that's not like being in the same town as somebody else. You just getting together smoking butts, drink it a few beers and hanging out in the garage and then flow Jeff fucking tate shows up. If this, well, I mean this was yeah, Oh, yeah, I know this guy in a...

...big band and he said it that he knows a guy who sending a day demo tape. You know, I'm saying, though, I can I get when your colla jam was in Seattle, whereas vetter was in Mookie blaylock was in Seattle. Yeah, and vetter was in San Diego. Well, Queens Reich is in fact from Washington. So that's right. There's a little tie right, that we can tie it all together in a nice little bow, Yep, and come back to reality. Now. That's right. I'll tell lenny to wrap us a bow, Yep. But yeah, I mean basically, like I saw up before, a guitarist, Chris Dagarma, wrote about that concept and also said, you know, basically just opening up the doors to your subconscious mind and learning how to master your dreams. And that was in a Crang magazine Article Back from one thousand nine hundred and ninety. So yeah, Lucid dreaming is better than higher. But that's what silent CIDIT. He's all about. MMM, indeed, not as good as getting high, but it's better than higher. I've never. I've never done that and we hear it songs gone wrong. You know, we always pass on grass sometimes and you know, stay clean. Crack as Wat kids come into the Lli, guys come hang out with Dave from songs gone wrong. Yeah, you're hanging out with lenny too long. All right, lad, he's hanging out with me. Certain my happenings for us to do that sound so voice. Let's carry on, shall we have? All right, Dave, so let's get into our final verdicts here. So silent lucidity by Queens Reich. What do you think? Do you think this song is a legit hit, or do you think it is a song gone wrong? Okay, full disclosure here. We plan on doing this song on the show. I went on a complete queens right binge. It was the only thing I listened to for like a week and a half straight. I couldn't get enough queen's Rake and they have some awesome songs, some real bangers, and this tune power ballad is okay, but it's not something I was really thirsty for. When I was chugging down all that Queen's Reich, I was like, well, yeah, you know it's at our right, did he? But it's not my favorite, did he? I think even on this album itself of empire, there are way better songs. The majority of songs, I think, are better than silent lucidity. I can see why it did in fact chart as high as it did. But yet again, I mentioned earlier, empire is held up incredibly well, really really well. But does that mean I still want to hear silent lucidity? I think I'd rather hear Jet City woman twenty one times in a row before I listened to sulentucidity again. So for that reason and that reason alone, and hopefully you guys can understand my logic. I'm terrible explaining myself half the time, so hopefully you can pick up my vibes. But I'm going to lean song going wrong. How dare you? Yeah, filthy animal, I see what you're saying. Okay, good, at...

...least somebody does. I'm all right. So I kind of feel the same way. But let me let me dig into this here. So right when we do the show we try to keep nostalgia out of our rulings, right, you know, we try to just talk about the proper merits of a song. But there are a few songs where that's really tough to separate the nostalage or from, you know, the good qualities of the song, and I feel like silent this city for me, is one of those songs. I do think it's a good song on its own and yes, maybe my verdict might be clouded ever so slightly by my own nostalgia here, but I still think it's still a good song and a legit hit on its own. Now, is it my favorite song of their's? Kind of a close tie. I like a real world. Is this their best song? I would not say it is. I think real world's actually a better song, which is author album promised lands and also on the last action hero soundtrack. Amazing Soundtrack. But that's all great song. Also, empire, like the song itself, is a great song. I think overall that's a better song than silentlacidity. But I think silent La city itself is great musically, lyrically, it's well written, makes you think a little bit. It's good stuff. So I'm going to rule that this is an absolute legit hit. Yeah, you know that means we gotta turn to the John Q public. We sure do. We sure do. So let's see what the fans have to say about silent lucidity from Queens Reich. All right, we have the fan vote. Dave, okay, and eighty one percent, the overwhelming majority here, said that this song is a legit hit. Hey, I'm down for that. That's cool. Yeah, so we did get some good feedback to we have Ryan Boem, who goes by at Ryan Boem, said one of the best rock ballads ever written. I can, I can agree with that. Irish Keith at Tis Meself, you know, said I love that song so much that I went out and bought the album, but then thought the album was other shite. Well, I returned the album, even though I still love that song. I've heard it too often now and delete it from one of my playlists. Still it's a legit hit. So okay, I feel like he was very angry. Yeah, I can't agree with them on the album. I think that's one of the reasons why I said it was a song gone wrong, because I think there's so many better songs on empire than this one. So we're all entitled to our own opinions. Yeah, now, I mean I feel like Keith is right where he says like he's heard it too often. Now I feel like, yes, this song did get quite a fair amount of airplay. Also, like the video on MTV and vh one was constantly on. Yeah, but yeah, what can you do? Yep, Tom GIA at. I am Poly Nique said so, glad you asked. I was a huge fan through the s and introduced them to so many friends, but that album and song really turned me off. Their...

...music had a certain intensity and urgency in the s that was lost after mind crime. They changed. Or maybe I did fair assessment. Okay, I appreciate that. Tom Jed Shafer at streets a Jed said, if for no other reason, you got to respect the band that, during the hair metal air have the balls and do a power ballot about lucid dreaming. So yeah, it's a good point. And last I have Tim Kendall at Seventeen Candle said, wow, the song fit your criteria. Alrighty, it's legit. Why? It's a great song. They did capitalize on the hard rock formula, but it's not a sappy ballad. On the other hand, I rarely want to hear it anymore. I've used it as a bathroom break song five times since two thousand and fourteen. Still Solid. Okay now, yeah, yeah, all right, you know, I don't know. I get it. It's one of those things too. When you think about power ballots, is stuff this song doesn't have to do with romance right, correct, and usually that that's the the recipe. The thing is a queen's Reich. A lot of their songs are about that and they're heavy or they're harder. So, you know, it's one of those one of those things where I just I don't know, man, Great Song, just not my song. That's fair. I feel like I could keep defending myself. Hey, man, I don't know what I'm doing here. It's all right, but that's pretty much it. Anything else you want to add? Yeah, I'm going to. Actually, I want to cite a better song off the album and say to all the fans out there, first off, I appreciate the the fact that you guys take time out of your day to listen to her humble little program and don't slam the door on your way out. Don't leave without saying good, good boy. That sounded great. Thanks. Thanks, me and Lenny even working on that. And the true I gotta visit that Tree House. No, you don't. Okay, all right then, I will steer clear from that. See. Yes, please, do. You're not invided. You're one of the good guys. We don't want to have to corrupt what's going on over there and the sticker making madness. Hey, what's going on there? Goodna come. Then I come back home the completely change. Man. Yeah, yeah, types like my wife is. My wife was like, what happens? Yeah, you look like you just like for band member a crazy town. Oh God, no, yeah, fucking crazy town. Well, do that anyway. No, that's not going to happen. I need to go take a shower after just even saying the word creezy down. Okay, it's a Brentley Gilbert. Fuck him too. Yeah, both of them combined. Imagine that like a mutant. You boy. We're getting some strange stuff over there. Keyblere ells, we kick them out and we're up to some wacky shit. The throp on my mouth clean it anyway. Rins. Well, guys, thank you very much for a listening to songs...

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