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Songs Gone Wrong

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Spiderwebs by No Doubt

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Was Spiderwebs a No Doubt legit hit or a Song Gone Wrong? When did Gwen Stefani stop aging? Is this maybe a Halloween song in disguise? Make sure you listen as Drew and Dave discuss the plight of the spider.

Everyone end welcome to songs ton wrom,where we alone with you, the fans eside of these hit songs got it right. Didthose songs go wrong and whone if your hosts drew Zachman and joining me? Asalways, is Dave Shultz? Mr Schrultz? How are you doing on this Glorious Dayhow Doyo do drew? I am great. How are you live in the dream? Man? I'm excitedto talk about this song yeah, and you know what I'm excited to talk about allthe songs. We talk about. To be honest, Yath, you right, music, that's great,and you know I have one quick question for you before we go on living thedream. Everybody says it, but is it true at Nightno you lay your head up:okay, perping! No! Okay, I'll tell you whatmy kids are living the dream: they have a pretty sweet life, hmm they're, doinggood we'r t right here, Rit to hear it yright adult sice yeah we're we'regetting by that's what we do. Okay, what we're doing? That's what youshould have said, we're doing Osyo know what we're doing we're doing good we'redoing good yeah. I know, but when I say hey drew, how are you you could havesaid I'm getting by? I feel Lik, let's not like Er, I'm okayp, all rightyeah. You know it's honest. It's true. I feel like I'm used to saying, becauseI used to say that at work all the time more or less, just o people leave methe fuck alone M, like wow this guy's doing great, I'm like yeah. Just leaveme alone. You know it's a good one when they say hey. How are you today, yousay moderate to average Hui just keep going, and it's like the cheesiestthing you can say, but it leaves them wondering like what the does that meanmoderate to average. What a jerk wee we could just say. You know what thecreams starting to work. So I'm feeling a little bit better h and then nobodywill ever ask you again. So that's one way to do it. I guessright. This is Benyeah can't argue we're going of through OLS Yer AnywayYep. If you haven't done so already guys hit subscribe to make sure you getall of our episodes and they come out which in fact is twice a week and ifyou could also leave us a five star review. That would be deeply greatlyappreciated and you can also follow us on twitter at songs going or drop us anemail, sgw podcast at gmalcom or visit our website, songs gone wrongcom andyou can go to visit that website and submit to us. Maybe some songs that you,you know uld like to have reviewed on this show. But this episode we'retalking about a Goodi. We are talking about Spider webs by no doubt which wasoff their album tragic kingdom, which came out in one thousand nine hundredand ninety five way before Gwensaphani's face froze. So it waswritten by former lovers, Gwensafani and their basist Tony Canal, but Davewhat are some of your memories of Spider. WEBS Ey, don't ban him, but nowno, but Dan out went down just that being heard over and over again inrepetition that guitar line that little weird quirky kind of odd sound. But youknow it's less thes song for me that I have memories of but the whole scene atthe time back in in one thouand, nine hundred and ninety five, because nodoubt was so popular everybody was trying to do that kind of sky hybridthing. You saw a lot of plaid pants and chain wallets. If you know what I mean,but even then I was in the band scene back then I was a rock and roller cooldude. But one of the bands I associated...

...with was an absolute, no doubt knockoff even to the point where they made sure they had a female lead singer andyeah. They wanted to try to copy that success to which it never happened. So you know when you think about it.How many knockoffs of no doubt have in fact made it to the big time to which Ican't say any so yeah yeah I got none there. You go man, I know I know,there's a lot of groups of girl singers, but I o, I can't think of any like that. Have this particular Scoth,sound Yeyou can trace them. ONALISA doesnit mean anybody's going to buy it.That's right, yeah. I remember hearing this song in H, mid s and it's it's oneof those songs that for me it always puts me in a good mood. I think thiswas a big song in Thi summer of ninety six, and it was just one of thosemoments where you know: you're driving, inthe car windows down nice weather andthe song comes on to radio good stuff. Man Love it also. I remember watchingthis video over and overgane on MTV, probably in between watching the grindwith Eric Neece. I I honestly don't know why I like that show, but I reallyliked watching the grinds and the only person I've ever heard admit thatfreely yeah of their own yeah. That's why? why Ar we? I honestly TAT with in it's weird,because I really don't like dancing, but I just like an it wasn't like. Iwas like watching the show to like look at all the at the girls, because whenthat show was on, I was like a teenager, so thin goo loo at those girls, but notwas even like that. I just HMI, don't know I just like at. It was weird Ijust liked watching the grind. I don't know why it's odd and it's also like aweird. It's a weird concept. I don't know I like, I can't imagine sittingdown now and just watching a show of just basically you re just likewatching a big party yeah, that's all you're doing like I do T. I don't think I could sit down andwatch a show like that now yeah, but those shows they've had popularitythrough every decade. It's just a weird foreign concept to you that peoplewould actually enjoy it, even though you yourself in fact would watc I meanI wouldn't a, I wouldn't enjoy it now s because I'm like, why am I going towaste an hour, but then watching people you got home from school. You scoopedout some ice cream. Yes, that's pretty much exactly can't waio turn on theground. Oh yeah, that dude from the real worlds on you talk about fuck, Ohman, Eric Niece Dude, what yeah, HMM, okay! Well, that was a little tid bit deep was Gonno, say a deep peak intoyour into your soul right there, because that must have been a hardthing for you to admit, and I pretty much came out and just said it. So Idon't think it was uo that difficult for me. I think I think I'm okay withit: Okay, Al'm, okay with it, but normally yekow. We talk about songsthat chart on the billboard hot one hundred, but this one so in order to beeligible for the billboard hot one hundred the song needs to be releasedas a single in the US, however, spider webs while being wildly popular inMidys, was actually not released as a single in the US. So we'll talk aboutsome of the songs in general, but spiderwubs are still popular on spotify bider webs has been streamed over fortytwo million times on spotify and no doubt has over five and a half millionmonthly listener, so pretty good, and so just for you know just for shits andgiggles. What I did was, I looked at you know the the billboard hot onehundred Shart Anyway, so the video was released in April o onethousand nine hundred and ninety six, so I went back to around may maytwelfth was the chart that I looked at for the billboard hot one hundred atthat time, and the top five of that week was at number one. The crossroadsby bone, fugs and harmony. Two was always be. My baby by Maria carry threewas because you loved me by Selin Don for was ironic by Alannic morset andfive was nobody knows by the Tony Rich...

...project, so decent little top fivethere yeah, okay, I gav I mean, I suppose, itwas sturdy enough yeah I wasOlry, but so how does this song compare to other songs on the album? I I'll sin.I think this song fits nicely on the album, a D and, as you mentioned, youknow no doubt was kind of that sky band like a SCA pop band and spider webs,it's a nice fit on the album. You know you have other classic songs. You mightrecall on this album. Just a girl don't speak, but excuse me, Mr, is a greatsong as his different people. I, like those songs, a lot overall, it's a goodalbum. I don't really go back to it too too much, but it's a good album e's acouple good tunes on there. So so dave were you ever into Ska? Not Really SCYwas not my my preferred music. I don't think I owned any Scou records at the time. I wasn't really into thewhole Horn, section reggae influence music. I mean listen. Everybody likedsome of the mainstream stuff that hit the time right sublime was a great band.I never owned any no doubt records, but when they came on the radio I wasn'taverse to listening to them, but yeah it wasn't like. I wasn't annoyed by itlike I was what was that whole thing around thesame time was a Zuit suit, riht wing, yeah Swet, Oh God, that was the mostnauseating thing. was that bride, the Brian Setser Orchestra Yeah, but theres there was a name for it, which I can't think of off the top of my head,because I killed too many brain sells in the s to remember what it was now Idid mention my or I was starting to say, rather that my band at the time was aknockoff of blank. I was going to say the influences that we had were boutwhole surfers faith, no more flaming lips, things like that, so wewere trying to go a whole differentavenue, but yeah. I hung with a lot of the sky fans out there yeah. How aboutyou yeah? I was never into it. I remember when it was popular. I yeah toyour point. People were like dressing, you know with those plaid pants andstuff a I'm like what you guys doing, but yeah I ju. I don't know I justnever got into it. You know back, then I was into heavy stuff back then soyeah Isco, I you did you, take the girls who would pull the GWENS tafannybelly shirt little jewel between you know, t ether orn their forehead thinggoing on. I remember it's like kids doing that,and that was normal and cool Lik. Let's just copy Guen Stefani. I honestlydon't remember anybody doing that really yeah! Well now it's easy to copyher. Just T go, get some botoxs there. You Go. That's all it! You know theother day I saw her and I'm like man. She looks amazing. She looks so goodand my wife, maybe ecause she was jealous hatd. I had said that orsomething I don't know, but she immediately without hesitation or pausewas like you know how much plastic is in her face yeah, so yeah yeah, I'malways always Gonnao be a fan of hers, but I Miss Tragic Kingdom Guensafani.The new one is like she's like a. She looks like a damndoll. Is Weird it'. Sat, that's a little odd to me. I don't knowsomething's something's off anyway, breaking into the lyrics here. You knowwhat I feel like this song could in fact be a Halloween Song. You know ifit wasn't so upbeat, I feel like it definitely could be a halloween song, ad, so the song is basically about a stocker that kept bugging Gwen Tafaniafter her breakup with Tony Canall, as I mentioned before, he was the baseplayer from no doubt someone had her number and would call her off and andGwen didn't, have it and herd to tell them off. So the song is about asstocker essentially and it's called Spider Webs, so you put them togetherand you get a good Halloween toone right. You know you have spider webs.You have a stacker in there, but to the...

...points of spider, webs and spiders I'like to talk about this. If I mad dave, if I a okay, you are permitted, pleaseall right! Thank you. I will proceed now. My wife and I lived in a beautifulsuburb of New Jersey. We'd go for walks offand with our daughters. We push themaround. Then ter strollers and I really Ou, know enjoyd going for walks withthem, and one of my my favorite time to go on walks was in the fall time aswe'd walk around the neighborhood. You know, we'd see a bunch of houses thathad their Halloween decorations up and one of the most commonly useddecorations were spiders and giants Spider webs. Now let me pose thisquestion to you dave. Do you know what animal or insect causes the most humandeaths a year? This is a wonderful question to he said it could be animaland or insect correct. I think we're not talking we're not talking about,like you know, cancer or health or all right right, right, right, yeah. No, Idig, but I it's not like. I was only asking because I didn't have to choosesomething that has eight legs or whatever it could be. A mammal could beyeah a different speces. I think the answer here is obvious and the questionmay be in fact a little too easy because the answer is Penguin: HmmClose Anot, not at all Actallo, but man now t the penguin from Batman. He couldbe up here but I's Agon chiller dilly. According to the World HealthOrganization, the number one killer of human beings all over the world- ouremosquitoes okay, Misquito ask hol, yeah mosquitoes kill er on one millionpeople a year and most of those deaths are caused by malaria, althoughWestnile virus and Denga fever are also potentially deadly. Humans came in.Second, we came in second, we didn't win as we kill around four hundred andseventy five housand people a year, namely due to gun violence. So, yes,snakes were thirt, no penguin, snakes or third, so yeah Indiana Jones wasrightfully scared of them. Snakes kill around fiftyhsand people a year, andthis is worldwide. Dogs are actually fourth dogs kill around twenty fivehousand people a year, most of which are due to mallings and bites fromrabbit dogs. So here's a number guess how many people spiders kill. Each year, six cool close. Seven. Seven people die each year roughly fromspiders, okay here'shere's another one number Igot for a year. Fresh water, snails, kill around ten thousand people peryear. Now. Do we see any freaking fresh water, snail decorations in people'sfront yards ants, ants, Daveeah, tey, ants themselves, killaround thirty people per year, ants yeah I've yet to see an aunt decorationin someone's window in October, and I think this is a problem right. SPIDERSare wrongfully villified in our culture. You want to see something scary. Haveyou ever seen ar close up video of how mosquitoes bite you? That is some alien?Looking Shit? Mosquitoes should be the ones who are villified, not spiders.Mosquitoes are these little fucking aliens that similar to vampires, mindyou suck blood and kill one million people per year. Wow, you know! No, weshould know what we should be doing is praising spiders for their efforts.They're gon real her us here because guess what they catch. Those littlebloods sucking mosquito, fuckers and Thei'r spider webs. So people we needto change. The narrative. SPIDERS are our friends. Sorry again right, you'Rhired up right, you'R, Lon, congressman get on the horn with them, leave amessage and they'll call you back. Okay, like I feel like this, should be atopic during presidential debates. Oh, please, Jesus! No! I would actuallylike to. I would actually like to hear people talk about this, but you know Ido want to see some mosquito...

...decorations by the way. So, if anybodyhelps me pick up this fight, please Sond, then a picture of your mosquitoHalloween, decorations and I'll. Send you a song's gone wrong sticker, whichcan also serve as a decoration right there. You go yeah bing, Ban CatHashtag mosquitoes with a real enemy. That's what we need to get trending,but that's a long hash tag. If you, if you watch, if there's they like closeup videos of mosquitoes and it's actually terrifyeing, it's called firstof all, the little like needle that they stick in you. I think it's calledlike a prebiscus which is a weird fucking name, but that's what it'scalled and they stick it in you and it like moves around. It's really weirdand it's insanely freaky and they kill a million people a year, bummer! Sospiders, you know theyre our friends, so everybody out there grab yourscissors grab. Your construction paper do as drew says so you can get a freesticker. Yes, we need more mosquito decorations out there. Instead of likeChristmas time there they cutting out snowflakes, you get some weird twisted.Songs gone wrong, Fan there trimmitg up some mosquitors they're the enemy mantelling you believe it a dude. If they don't kill you they, you know they'll bite, you andyou get a crazy itch for like at least a week. True I get it man, I understandyou, hate, mosquitos, mosquitoes are bad. It's a cultural problem that we havetheyr view a certain way. We need to change it. Well, isn't there astatistic out there, and I don't know if this is legit or not, because youjust hear it through the greape mine, but on average Americans or humans, orwhoever swallow x amount of spiders while they sleep every year. I know tyou're talking about. I don't I don't know the number to that. So, let's Hashtag humans, your monsters because we're killing our spider friends while wesleep, but we also kill like almost half a million of ourselves and we'realso pretty terrible a lot of the spiders bad. It's all about theSpiderssay, the spiders anyway yeah this songis Abou stockerrs, Thi Tthsongs about a stocker who would keep calling Gwen, but Gwen was too nice totell thim to stop so here's a question you David did: You ever have a hardtime breaking up with someone Nah? No! No! No, never! Never is always easy forme, because I was a massive jerk and I just had a selfedit but yeah. How aboutyou drew what time? When did you kind of like have to go through a carton ofcigarettes and and a bunch of crumpled up pieces of paper? Because you werewriting a dear John Letter or something I probably should have done that, butalso I never smoked carnds of cigarettes and I thisforthi image yeah.I know what I sa. You O the whole silhouette at a table. Cigaretteburning, ferociously writing on a piece of paper. I tried to love. You but lovewasn't enough. Well, it wasn't. No it's the other way around. Like this. Wasthis one girl I dated Nice. Love girl bless her heart, but she was. I eventually like kept like pullingaway and then eventually I felt like you know by me just likebeing El, I wasn't men but like just you know, not you know being just notthere like. Maybe she would take the hand she never took the hint and theneventually at some point im I did have to be like that's it. I guess we'redone. I was just like scared. She would likedo something. Oh Yeah, okay, now we're talking yeah. That'swhy I was like you know. I can't just come out and break up with you becauseI don't know, what's going to happen, yeah right, it's not just like hey, I'mgoing to leave you tooth Brushin, the mailbox kind of thing yeah, because Imight wake up with a horse head in my bed, correct so yeah. So eventually Iwas just like you know. Just you know eventually kept up pulling away pullingaway and then eventually, even though whate was holding away pulling awayjust like Oh, oh I'm, busy,...

...cold, just N is and just just beinglike distant when we did hang out te. Oh, what did you say? I wasn't payingattention. You know she still Wan Ik Thn such a jerk wy. Icouldn't break up with her because I'm like what's GOINGTA happen. Hou MightStab me okay, so instead you just you were justthis mutton head, oh whats, that I'm sorry, I wasn'tpaying attention Bab, because I'm a dant cool, dude, Yeahlo, Git, me flex.My muscles, I didn't do that. Well, I assu again I'm big on mental images.You know and that's the first thing that popped into my my Nagin so anyway,fair enough all right. So, let's, let's get to our verdict here, Dave so spiderweb is my no doubt. Do you think this is a legit hit or do you think this isa song that went wrong? It's a good song. What is it a great song? I would have to say no, when I think ofno doubt and yet again her. I am on this here very show, try to render myverdict or make my decision based on time served. Okay. We are here decadesafter the song was released and did it have an impact on me? Anybody around me. Basically anybody. I know I have no onein my life, whoever says dude we got TA. I really need to hear spiderwebs fromno doubt. I need to hear it right now its going to bring me back to a magicaltime in my life magical place in my life. Okay, aside from that musically,I'm not overly impressed with it. I do think it was very stereotypical againto the Sky Seene, which is very popular at the time. I also found the noodlingon that guitar part that I had mentioned earlier fairly annoying now.This is where oyeus stricky do. I really believe it's worthy of being ahit or not because again, great band good enough song. I don't have a lot of fun memories ofit, but I'm sure there might be I'm waiting for you to like jump in and belike. I do I do because that's just what you do drew, but still I am goingto go with it all right here here it is not a hit. This is a song gone wrong.Oh boy, Mkan, all right, hey we're allowed to disagree, and it'sokay. I knew that was coming. We're here for discussion. That's what we doall right. Let's see a what you got the drew meister that right. So I think the song hits on on most of theright notes. Even if you take the nostalgia out of the equation which,for me there's a lot there, it's still A. I think it's still a good songonhonestly. I miss this Squinceifani, the Gwen who could be sweet but alsokickyouras, the drop of a hat. I feel like now, she's all shot up a boatoxand dating that Brok, country, Duchnazzle, Blake, Shell and but atleast she's not dating Brantley Gilbert. So she has that going for her anyway.Songs lyrics decent gwen's voice, really, I think, brings it to life andyou're. Talking about the guitar I kind of like the Guitarist Tom Demont. Ithink he did a good job on this song. I've always been a fan of his lik, agood punk, Ska Guitaris. I think he's all right and- and I think he alwaybrings a lot to this song to the hook. The Hook is there so to me, I think the songs think the song is a legit hit nice. Youknow it's also a testament to the ability to screen your calls back inthe mids that Sik, so true, very cool thing to be able to do. Remember likethe whole werecalling, someone back with star sixty nine. It was a yes andtime imazing, but I do have one question for you before we continue theprogram. I'm wondering did this song or was this song ever apart of any of thesituations that you woald described earlier, when you were in fact givingthat poor young woman, the cold...

...shoulder, rather than being honest andforthright about breaking up with her? No, that was this. That probably happened about tenyears after this song came out. Hmm Well, even then, maybe I was on thebackground and a restaurant. You guys were sharing a slice of pizza who knowssubliminal, maybe no, no, if anything if anything of MIHT Ben,like don't, speak, yes, which was a much much much better song, yeah eaytit's agoodit's going. I you know, I say no, you say yes, but really. Thisis a wonderful thing that we disagree because we have a tiebreaker in place.Don't we drew, we sure do so. We are split, which means guess what comesdown to the fans. So let's hear what they have to say about no doubts,spider webs, so the fan spoke in. Seventy sixpercent said. Yes, this is a legit hite, so there we haveit pretty good for a song that didn't even chart. You know what I mean. I have to admit that you know the videohad a lot of power. Well, it's just it's a technicality really like E. Ifeel like this song definitely would have charted had it been released inthe US as a single, which is a weird it's a weird process anyway, how theydo it that way, but whatever it's a good song, I like it yeah. I know youdon't like it, but they that's. Okay, we can disagree. O okay, I said it's.Okay, it's just not like yeah when you, for example, you just said: Don't speakfrom no doubt yeah. I mean the moment that comes on you immediately get youknow, transported to another place, a simpler time. There's many memories tobe had with that song, good or bad spider webs doesn't have that same sameeffect, hit's, not in the same Pantheon. It does for me, but DOENITA, O d yeahmean it definitely takes me back to you know being like a fifteen or sixteenyear old, and maybe it's because it was you know all over. It was all on theradio on MTV so like you couldn't escape, but even if you wanted to youknow so, I feel like it was just part of the landscape at that time. No don'tspeak was inescapable, listen sped ways. Yes, I understand it was played all thetime I get it, but don't speak wit. Mamoth EA that was yeah. It's a great sunchspider webs in comparison is like Mah Mar you know, which is my noiseequivalent of being an not so good. Okay, yeah, fair enough. All right. Ithink we ' v. We have our answer here them any and Yo Hav last thoughts. Andyother last thoughts from you, Dave Yeah. You and the fans are absolutely wrong. I have to say that publicly. So that way, my opinion is officiallyon record that I don't know what's going on with either review, but youknow what it doesn't matter because when it all comes down to the KNITTYgriddy to the real essence of it all, I love you and I love the fans. I lovethis show yeah. All right, very, very eloquent, very well said. I'm surprised you didn't ask if I wason medication. Mm No oyk, you jus said you love me. YOULOVE THE FANS bblah! You are right, buddy, no, no concern for me or mysanity. Just yea kind I know at's because that's because I know deep down,you do love, you love me and you love the fans yeah. True, all of Er one bigone, big happy family. Even when you're wrong. That's right! We can, we can, wecan discuss, nothing gets thrown. We can justdiscuss HM. I might throw you out out the window, that's not nice! I knowit's not nice, but I don't know. I...

...maing hurt Sombodyyo, throw hem out thewindow, YEAH GUESS IIT! Well, I guess what now the statistics are going to beadded by one for human deaths. Now it's yeah seenty, five thousand andone what if it's like on the first floor, and it's only like five feet offthe ground. Well, then see Thereis, thires statistic: Yeah See you don'tyou didn't H, get to that! Did you because you only looked at the surfaceof all these statsman because sure spiders don't kill people, but spiders are responsible for more bonefractures in North America than any other species of insect. No triht. All right get me out of here.Dosee see you are pushing this propaganda. This antispiderpropaganda that we have that we as a country have been dealing with fordecades, yeah Teklesan IFFAMIT. If anybody sends me a logo of like aspider with crutches I'll make sure drew, sends you a sticker becauseHashta Hash, toag spiders break bones, hashtag mosquitoes of the real enemythere. You Go: Choose Your Hashtag wisely folks, yeah! Well, everybodythanks for listening to songs gone wrong. Like I said, chickus on antwitter at songs, gone drop, US an email, sgw podcast at gmlcom Tisis, ourwebsite songs, gone wrongcom, but until next time, thanks again for listeningto songs, gone wrong and remember, spiders are the real heroes, nise HashTag.

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